Why any rational person would think that a startup would begin with JB or Delta wages for pilots is beyond me. It’s a start up…..

I remember when JB was formed and many of the initial pilots were Eastern scabs and the pay was also considered very low at the time relative to other airlines. But now JB offers a competitive package. It takes awhile for any start up to pay “industry standard” wages - but eventually it happens if the start up survives and wants to hold on to valued/experienced employees who can go elsewhere - especially in this tight market for pilots.

Breeze will eventually have to raise its wages and benefits for pilots to industry standards OR it will see a pilot exodus to competitors. To be fair, you have to give it more than just a few months to make that happen. Starting off with JB or Delta pilot wages makes very little sense.

 

^^^This is exactly right. I too remember pilots bitc%ing here on APC about the gall of B6 hires keeping everyone down. The reality is that those first 1K pilots to B6 are in an excellent position. If one wants to be number 15,001 at AA - go for it. Don't hate on those seeking an opportunity to exploit.

 

For those actually still interested in Breeze... I see they removed the vaccine mandate for new hires. If you apply and choose to remain unvaccinated, will they actually consider you for the job? With all the attrition is TPA a base that will be available for new hires in coming classes? How many people have E190 classes been averaging and what are they planning to do for classes moving into 2022? Is the commuting stipend actually a thing if you end up having to commute to one of the other bases?

 

SWA and AA pilots might be applying now.

 

I'm not addressing the remainder of your points but this at least is not true. As far as I can determine, JetBlue has hired about 6 scabs, ever. Most everyone else came up from the usual startup pool: supplemental, regional, other small part 121. The scabs are known, named, and never trusted even today.

 

Just curious if the other legacy carriers.....and their pilots........flew Eastern routes when they were on strike????????

 

You are claiming if airline X is on strike and normally flies JFK-LAX, then airline Y is crossing a picked line if they fly JFK-LAX?

 

That is exactly what he is saying.The RLA makes it really hard to achieve that scab status, so he's just trolling to get the recognition.

 

If you had more than 5 minutes in the airline industry, you'd realize that competing airlines flying a striking airline's routes helps the cause, not hurts it. It apples pressure to the company, as they watch the competition grab their market share.

What would be scab worthy would be if alter ego pilots who work for the same parent company started flying routes they don't normally fly. For example, the Comair strike, if Delta and ASA had started flying Comair routes they didn't fly previously.

Now before you try a ha ha gotcha moment, that may diminish my uncalled for comment that you are scabs, but you are certainly still cockroaches for flying mainline equipment at regional compensation. You're putting downward pressure on every other contract in the industry. And you're proud of it.

 

Cockroaches never die. So there’s that.