135 pilot to 121
07-12-2018, 02:37 AM
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135 pilot to 121
Hey everyone. I just had a question that I really couldn’t find the answer to on this thread. I’ve always wanted to work for AA. The only issue is that I never could afford to live on a regional pilots salary (had a couple of kids way to young). I have just over 5500TT now, but only 75 hours or so is ME jet. I am working on that currently as I fly a phenom 100. The other issue is most all of my flying is 135 single pilot. What are the chances of getting an interview in with AA with all the regional guys out there looking at the same job? What steps should I take to better my chances of getting an interview? Thanks in advance for any advice. If this this thread needs to be moved please do so. If this has been answered before please point me in the direction. Thanks.
07-12-2018, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Avi8tor441
Hey everyone. I just had a question that I really couldn’t find the answer to on this thread. I’ve always wanted to work for AA. The only issue is that I never could afford to live on a regional pilots salary (had a couple of kids way to young). I have just over 5500TT now, but only 75 hours or so is ME jet. I am working on that currently as I fly a phenom 100. The other issue is most all of my flying is 135 single pilot. What are the chances of getting an interview in with AA with all the regional guys out there looking at the same job? What steps should I take to better my chances of getting an interview? Thanks in advance for any advice. If this this thread needs to be moved please do so. If this has been answered before please point me in the direction. Thanks.
Who knows what future holds, but I’d say your best thing you can do is get hired at the WO if you really want a job at AA. I believe the pay has really come up in the last few years and with bonuses, you might be able to afford it now. I really don’t know, but I’m willing to bet there are multiple threads under Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont that discuss current pay expectations and QOL so you can think about it.
Good luck
07-12-2018, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by AFTrainerGuy
Honest answer.... probably very close to 0% (never say never). Multiple threads have discussed the percentages of new hires who are non-military, non flow through. The percentage of classes made up outside these two demographics is very low. Combine that with your very low ME experience and I just don’t see it
Who knows what future holds, but I’d say your best thing you can do is get hired at the WO if you really want a job at AA. I believe the pay has really come up in the last few years and with bonuses, you might be able to afford it now. I really don’t know, but I’m willing to bet there are multiple threads under Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont that discuss current pay expectations and QOL so you can think about it.
Good luck
Who knows what future holds, but I’d say your best thing you can do is get hired at the WO if you really want a job at AA. I believe the pay has really come up in the last few years and with bonuses, you might be able to afford it now. I really don’t know, but I’m willing to bet there are multiple threads under Envoy, PSA, and Piedmont that discuss current pay expectations and QOL so you can think about it.
Good luck
Yeah, what he said. You need ME crew jet PIC, preferably 121, and lots of it to be on their radar. Buddy of mine just got hired, non-flow, with probably 5K TT, maybe 2K 121 TPIC, but he had friends at AA who mentored and recommended him.
For clarity, the ONLY competitive SE turbine time for top-tier majors is in a military tactical jet.
Presumably there's enough demand in 91/135 that you could get into something bigger? >50K MGTOW would be good too, at least some airlines apps are also scored for aircraft size, ie bigger = better.
07-12-2018, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
For clarity, the ONLY competitive SE turbine time for top-tier majors is in a military tactical jet.
I’ve got three buds from PlaneSense who went to SWA in the past year after a year or less in a jet. I would say the old formula is still valid, but it is a rapidly changing hiring environment.
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07-12-2018, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Toonces
I’ve got three buds from PlaneSense who went to SWA in the past year after a year or less in a jet. I would say the old formula is still valid, but it is a rapidly changing hiring environment.
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07-12-2018, 09:43 AM
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If you want to build multi-crew time and not be at a regional, large-cabin corporates (Challenger 350 and up) have jobs going begging. I just heard of two Globals in BOS area that can’t be crewed at 225k+ salaries.
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07-12-2018, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
If you want to build multi-crew time and not be at a regional, large-cabin corporates (Challenger 350 and up) have jobs going begging. I just heard of two Globals in BOS area that can’t be crewed at 225k+ salaries.
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Unless you are saying that they are willing to type people in a Global, then pay them $225k+ and still can't find people.
07-12-2018, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
What type jets? The Phenom 100 is a 10,500 lbs single pilot jet. Other than really small jet it doesn't check many resume boxes.
I believe they were C750, BE400, and C525. So sure all two pilot mid-size business jet. The anecdotal evidence is still a data point to recognize. As the hiring environment changes, you don’t need as many check boxes on the resume or time in seat required to get a great job.
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07-12-2018, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Probably because they want people that are typed...
Unless you are saying that they are willing to type people in a Global, then pay them $225k+ and still can't find people.
Unless you are saying that they are willing to type people in a Global, then pay them $225k+ and still can't find people.
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07-12-2018, 12:27 PM
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Thanks for the honest answers guys. My multi time isn’t that low. That’s just my multi jet PIC. The issue is that I flew a lot of turbo props and really never got on a jet until now. My multi time is around 3000 hours with 1000 or so of that being ME TPIC. I can’t take the pay cut on moving back to a regional from what I’m flying now. I’ll still get the app in to AA. It’s been the dream. Just getting down the right path has been difficult. I’ll take what you all said into consideration.
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