Well it was't on mine. In adition, the chief pilot for GCA is a regular contributor to these boards, and has never seen a part 91 pink slip sent from OKC. The records employers receicve are not the same records you get if you request a copy. The only records sent are for accidents, incidents or violations. Which also happen to be the questions on the PRIA form.

But 8410s are sent from previous employers, which would include records of failed checkrides for 135 or 121 operators.

 

I actally asked to see my records in my last interview. I had never seen them before and was wondering what they looked like. No part 61 or 141 records at all. No records of any GA activity whatever. A failed 121 checkride was on the record... The records were exactly what I received from PRIA, which also contains nothing at all about 61 or 141 checkrides.

In all the interveiws that I have done I have been asked about failed checkrides. In all of them I answered honestly and openly (except one). From an HR standpoint they can tell a lot about you from the way you explain your failings. To think that you have never failed a check is just plain foolish... But, watching you confidently explain your mistakes allows them to see so very much about how you deal with problems, challenges, and personal growth. Those things are directly transferable to how you are going to act in the crew environment.

I've been offered every job I applied for but the first one... the one in which I wasn't prepared for the interview and squirmed like a dead fish about my failed checkrides. When I realized that it wasn't really the checkride performance they were asking about, but instead how I dealt with failure and challenges it was never an issue again.

IMO that thing on the front page of APC about failed checkrides is a load of crap... I've failed my fair share. I'm no super-pilot. Wouldn't want to be.

 

They can, and do check if you've failed a ride. You did the right thing by disclosing it.

 

Not true; if I got everything the employer did. My FAA records request only said that I had no violations, incidents or accidents as such and such date. That being said, a commercial multi pink slip isn't going to prevent you from being hired so you did the right thing by telling them.

 

Not if they can't read the hand writing.

 

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So looking at the recent apps online these days...most of the regionals are very interested in past failed checkrides. Thanks to a certain Colgan pilot....so I was giving it some thought, and for those of us who have a 141 background, we have never "failed" checkrides. But I was doing some thinking about the current climate of pilot employer scrutiny. How would they react to say a failed stage check or failed xxxxx checkride... or even a combination now-a-days? Even they have to know that just because you come from a 141 background....there are still people that fail checkrides just like the 61 world. Thoughts?

 

I think they are using it as a filter for applications. Failed a ride (135/121)and poof your out of the process.

 

Part 141 stage checks are NOT FAA checkrides. You do not have to report one as a "failed checkride."

 

Perhaps, but it's still not worth it to lie. Right now, airlines are getting hundreds of apps for each open spot, but still, I know guys who've been hired in lean times with multiple 121 checkride failures. And tons of guys with spotless records who didn't.

Personally, I learned more from my 121 bust than any other lesson in my aviation career.

But hey, to each his own.

 

I agree with you. I think anyone who has failed one is much better off from the learning process and probably had their fair share of mental anguish over it.
I also don't think lying about something in your past is good either but the way its treated as a black flag now will lead people to do just that.