PRIA and pilot record request
#51
Do you know when the rule changed? This event occured in May. All that I can find only points to the FAA retaining records beyond 5 years, I can't find clarification on company's required record retention beyond 5 years. Many other operators I network with purge their records that are 5 years old or older for liability reasons.
#52
Lori Clark's link to the revised PRIA explains it all. A few key points chapter 2 pertains to pilots trying to get a job Chapter 3-4 pertains to employers. Appendix 9(additional pilot records) section 2 pertains to the rest of the good stuff a "complete airmens file" which includes form 8060-5 Notice of disapproval of application (pink slips). Form 8710-1 practical test application.
#54
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 52
Regarding PRIA; the last thread is less than a year old, and thought the dust would have settled by now. I just got off of the phone with a well established airline who informed me that according to the law (regs), training records are required to go back only five (5) years. Can anyone else verify or challenge this?
Also, if you last worked for an airline ten years ago, does PRIA even apply?
Thanks
Also, if you last worked for an airline ten years ago, does PRIA even apply?
Thanks
#55
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: Aviation Consultant
Posts: 320
Regarding PRIA; the last thread is less than a year old, and thought the dust would have settled by now. I just got off of the phone with a well established airline who informed me that according to the law (regs), training records are required to go back only five (5) years. Can anyone else verify or challenge this?
Also, if you last worked for an airline ten years ago, does PRIA even apply?
Thanks
Also, if you last worked for an airline ten years ago, does PRIA even apply?
Thanks
The piece of legislation introduced last year applies to the FAA and how long they keep their records. Historically, the FAA would purge certain records after a period of time, depending on the issue. For example, an LOI would be purged after two years. The proposed legislation would instead require the FAA to retain all records forever. Last I heard this was just proposed legislation, although I suspect that if it hasn't passed it will, but the real question is when does this new law go into effect.
So no, an employer beyond the 5-year mark is not sent a PRIA request. At least for now.
Lori
#56
It appears that we're mixing and combining a couple of pieces of legislation here. PRIA (U.S.C. 49, Section 501 or Public Law 104-264) is the act which requires prospective employers to obtain a copy of your training records from previous employers for the past 5 years. That length of time has not been amended.
The piece of legislation introduced last year applies to the FAA and how long they keep their records. Historically, the FAA would purge certain records after a period of time, depending on the issue. For example, an LOI would be purged after two years. The proposed legislation would instead require the FAA to retain all records forever. Last I heard this was just proposed legislation, although I suspect that if it hasn't passed it will, but the real question is when does this new law go into effect.
So no, an employer beyond the 5-year mark is not sent a PRIA request. At least for now.
Lori
The piece of legislation introduced last year applies to the FAA and how long they keep their records. Historically, the FAA would purge certain records after a period of time, depending on the issue. For example, an LOI would be purged after two years. The proposed legislation would instead require the FAA to retain all records forever. Last I heard this was just proposed legislation, although I suspect that if it hasn't passed it will, but the real question is when does this new law go into effect.
So no, an employer beyond the 5-year mark is not sent a PRIA request. At least for now.
Lori
#57
What if you've been with an employer longer than 5 years? For example, I have been with my current airline for 7 years. During the first year I was with the airline (2006) I busted a proficiency check. Because this was 6 years ago, if and when I apply to another airline will this show up in my training records that they will see? Or is it thrown out since it was more than five years ago? Thanks.
#58
What if you've been with an employer longer than 5 years? For example, I have been with my current airline for 7 years. During the first year I was with the airline (2006) I busted a proficiency check. Because this was 6 years ago, if and when I apply to another airline will this show up in my training records that they will see? Or is it thrown out since it was more than five years ago? Thanks.
#59
Does anyone know of a dummy company or a way to request my work/training/employment record at my current airline to find out exactly what may be forwarded to prospective airlines? Would be nice to know ahead of time before investing time/energy/money in pursuing a particular airline.
I do not feel my company would follow the legal law and may 'accidentally' slip in information that shouldn't be included in a request form. My interest is: One for curiosity and two, to determine what potential employers actually receive.
Thanks in advance!
I do not feel my company would follow the legal law and may 'accidentally' slip in information that shouldn't be included in a request form. My interest is: One for curiosity and two, to determine what potential employers actually receive.
Thanks in advance!
#60
Does anyone know of a dummy company or a way to request my work/training/employment record at my current airline to find out exactly what may be forwarded to prospective airlines? Would be nice to know ahead of time before investing time/energy/money in pursuing a particular airline.
I do not feel my company would follow the legal law and may 'accidentally' slip in information that shouldn't be included in a request form. My interest is: One for curiosity and two, to determine what potential employers actually receive.
Thanks in advance!
I do not feel my company would follow the legal law and may 'accidentally' slip in information that shouldn't be included in a request form. My interest is: One for curiosity and two, to determine what potential employers actually receive.
Thanks in advance!
I did, and it took about 8 weeks, but had every detail in it. Some airlines may do the short request which just shows the certificates you hold, and if any action has been taken against your certificate, but the complete file shows everything from certificates, actions, written test results, certificate approvals/disapprovals, etc.
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