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Related question-I trained at a part 141 school and have school logbooks as well as a personal logbook. Which one should I use? I don't have all the endorsements in my personal, they are in the school book and the instructors who endorsed me have left. I heard a copy of the endorsement is fine but wasn't sure.
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I wouldn't worry too much about "tagging" anything in your logbook. You should however have a sheet with a basic flight time summary. If you want to "earmark" stuff, your last checkride and proficiency check/flight review is probably important. The most important thing is to have your logbooks and that they be neat and organized, up to date, and totalled properly.
If you have multiple logbooks (like Wally), take all of them along to the inteview.
If you have multiple logbooks (like Wally), take all of them along to the inteview.
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Related question-I trained at a part 141 school and have school logbooks as well as a personal logbook. Which one should I use? I don't have all the endorsements in my personal, they are in the school book and the instructors who endorsed me have left. I heard a copy of the endorsement is fine but wasn't sure.
Oh, sh*t...
I'm a little rusty on this, but it's important so listen up...
141 courses DO require these endorsements:
- Written Test
- Solo
- 8710 Form (try to keep copies)
141 Courses DO NOT require check ride (end-of-course stage check) endorsements as long the check is done under 141. The are a couple of problems here...
1) Many folks who don't know 141 (interviewers) still expect to see a check-ride endorsement.
2) Due the confusion in item 1), most 141 instructors will also provide a part 61 endorsement for the checkride (this may be technically incorrect if the the student barely meets 141 experience for the rating and is below 61 experience requirements).
3) Due to item 2), even more interviewers get used to seeing 61-style logbook endorsements for 141 rides. While not actually necessary, it is the expectation.
Assume that you will DEFINATELY want some record of endorsements or end-of-course signoffs for any interview. Preferably these will be in your logbook, but if not certainly bring a copy (Can you paste the copy into the back of your loogbook? Do so if possible). I would also ask the 141 school to give you a letter (on real letterhead) saying that you completed these 141 courses on these dates, and that no logbook endorsements were required under 141.
Again, ALL endorsements should be put in your logbook to save you trouble in the future...even if the school's program doesn't require it, ask them to give you endorsements for everything.
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I was on the interview comittee and looked at log books.
If you have any numbers that don't add up, make a note. This tells them that you are aware of it, and not just sloppy. An explanation that you are aware of it and can't remedy the discrepency is OK, unless the error is very large (5 hrs +, depending on total time).
I always appreciated an exhaustive breakdown of the numbers--NOT on a resume, but on a seperate sheet. Resumes give rough numbers, breakedown sheets lays it out for me, answers questions, and shows effort and transparency.
I was on the interview comittee and looked at log books.
If you have any numbers that don't add up, make a note. This tells them that you are aware of it, and not just sloppy. An explanation that you are aware of it and can't remedy the discrepency is OK, unless the error is very large (5 hrs +, depending on total time).
I always appreciated an exhaustive breakdown of the numbers--NOT on a resume, but on a seperate sheet. Resumes give rough numbers, breakedown sheets lays it out for me, answers questions, and shows effort and transparency.
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