Didn't say Legacy. I was purely talking about salaries I general.

 

Sorry, which major then?
I hope you are not considering regionals, that was not the intention of this thread, and it would be misleading

 

Sucks finding out your "facts" aren't really facts?

You are a very one-sided individual. As soon as anyone disproves your theory and logic you immediately try to come up with reasons why their story doesn't count.

Why can't he include furloughs? All your arguments are about remuneration packages. If one has been furloughed then it sure puts a damper on that argument for you. Quit being one-way.

 

The point he's trying to make is that you don't need $300K in order to have a decent retirement. Aviation or not.

 

Who asked you? You can disprove me but please do use logic.
If he includes furloughs, those must be included in the NJA economical experience as well, to keep both sides equal and extrapolate the variables. Is simple this math principle hard to understand for you? Not too bright.

 

That is your opinion, and I feel it is not what he was trying to say.

 

Says the guy who can't word sentences correctly.

It doesn't matter what anyone says. You are set in your ways, and that's fine, but there's no reason to constantly insult those who disagree with you.

 

I suppose we'll just have to wait for him to chime in again. However, very typical of you, I wish I could always be right too.

 

Right, wrong sentence. Nothing to do with math though.
Constantly insult who disagrees? Where? Evidence?
I state my opinion about the industry without sugar coating, you burst in here with judgment about me. Who is insulting who?

 

Thanks for all the replies. Let's make this thread more detailed in terms of real numbers, weighing the pros and cons of what one likes and dislikes. I hope we can all be civil and all learn something from one another.

Pros of Netjets:
1) the freedom to be able to live almost anywhere in the U.S. and be able to change that base. I believe we can change our base every three months. We have kids and have not used this option. May be someone else can chime in. So, when our kids are grown, we could be snowbirds.
2) we don't pay any healthcare monthly premiums except for co pays.
3) we are currently recalling our furloughed and in my estimation we should be hiring late 2015, early 2016 if we continue at this momentum.
4) We are currently in contract negotiations and we are going to fight for a better contract.
5) vacations are the best when being on the 7on, 7 off schedule. Although, I have still managed to get my 3; three week vacations. In year 10 I will have four weeks vacation, which in essence is really 4, 3 week vacations, 12 weeks vacation total per year. How does vacation work at the majors?

Cons:
1) from what I gather from others, in the long term, we are leaving money on the table. Nosidnostar brings up a good point. Nosidnostar, will you do a pay comparison for us? I would like to see what we are actually losing. You say millions, but I am having a hard time wrapping my head around that. Could you be more specific. I am making year 9 FO pay, base aircraft on the 18 day and tracking to make $120,000 this year with o/t, holidays, etc...
2) 401k match is not that great. Although I have managed to save $180,000 since inception with netjets. We have other retirement from my wife and rolled over IRA's that will help.
3) long stretches away from the family, tours are too long.

Everyone, please share.