Except... We don’t actually have long duty days by default at K4, and we don’t get deadheaded all over the world, all the time... Two entirely different operations, what’s number one for you doesn’t even make the top ten list for us.

 

You guys are in it just for yourselves. 1224 , DW and Atlas Pilots gave you support while you were negotiating a new contract.

But now that you have yours, you could care less about any other groups. You are too dense too even understand how pattern bargaining works.

So hurry up and leave. ALPA deserves you and you deserve ALPA

 

Our new pay rates should help you tremendously, and who knows, maybe the ruling on duty day will be to your liking? It truly is ridiculous for anyone to even fathom that it would be ok to deny another pilot group a gigantic pay increase over “duty day”.

 

With all due respect, your statement does nothing more than affirm that we are making the correct decision to move on. When I hear a response such as yours, I ask myself what would happen if we were to stay with the Teamsters, how would we be treated. I suspect people like you would treat us much worse than you already have, so at this point staying with 1224 is not an option. Like many others you bring up the duty day, and it seems to be the consensuses from outsiders that we are bringing the supplemental industry down by accepting a contract you oppose. It has been said before but evidently no one is paying attention; what works for you is great, and what works for us is good for us. For you to say that petty complaints about wanting to work more hours than a body can take is nonsense. It’s an empty statement made without any real knowledge of what happens on a daily basis. In other words, it’s a great sound bite but there is no substance to your statement.

Our main issue is the way we were treated by 1224, for you to deny this is delusional. All of you know what happened during the negotiations, DW used us as a pawn. You’re ok with this because it was good for you, but for you not to acknowledge the ramifications for us is ludicrous,

Many of us have been recipients of ruthless management tactics, which is why there is a union on the property. There will continue to be a union on the property, but one that will not work against us. Don’t worry about K4 you will get your wish, we will leave and never look back. Best of luck with your contract, I hope you get what you want.

 

Is K4 short for Kalitta airlines. I’m in the process of applying there...

 

It is the IATA code

 

Does anyone know how we are doing with the ALPA drive?

 

Seriously?? Well then you're super lucky and I hope I can start flying with you.. I stopped counting all the times my duty days have gone well passed 24+ hours.. It's awful.....

 

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Colt, please do 2 things for me. First, provide flight numbers and dates so I can look at MISA and pull up the information. I will post the results on here to verify the veracity of your complaints. Second, please volunteer for the scheduling committee. You seem to have a nose for sniffing out problems with our scheduling department. Perhaps you can be an effective part of the change you and other pilots want. I look forward to hearing from you via private message with the dates and flight numbers. Please contact Captain Owen or Captain Nelson to be put on the scheduling committee. Thanks for volunteering. Appreciate you giving your time to our Union