K4 Pilots Declaration Of Independance !
12-29-2017, 11:04 AM
#352
VHR-very happily retired
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Retired
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
ALPA sounds so enthusiastic to have us... 
Maxjet, you and I come from the same place, different times. I came later, after they got the scope clause to prevent what had happened. If you recall, ALPA is not a union, but refers to itself as a “pilot association”. It’s no secret that it’s every pilot group for themselves and national just wants your due money, no unity. Ironically, the thing you hate most about 1224, stems from having strong unity. Either have too much of it with 1224, or none at all. If Fed Ex was to benefit with our demise, or ATI’s, you better bet ALPA will give advice leading to that situation. Comair?
ALPA is teamsters, but with limp dicks instead of baseball bats.
Maxjet, you and I come from the same place, different times. I came later, after they got the scope clause to prevent what had happened. If you recall, ALPA is not a union, but refers to itself as a “pilot association”. It’s no secret that it’s every pilot group for themselves and national just wants your due money, no unity. Ironically, the thing you hate most about 1224, stems from having strong unity. Either have too much of it with 1224, or none at all. If Fed Ex was to benefit with our demise, or ATI’s, you better bet ALPA will give advice leading to that situation. Comair?
ALPA is teamsters, but with limp dicks instead of baseball bats.
I am reading about how ALPA took various Airlines and sacrificed them for the interest of another airline. This I don’t agree with at all. The irony is that 1224 has done it to us, and now Omni. Why is it OK for the Teamsters to do it?
There are no competing airlines in the ACMI segment at ALPA. This is why I think it is the safe place to be for an ACMI carrier
12-29-2017, 11:05 AM
#353
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Originally Posted by Code Red
One thing you can be sure of. ALPA will take out entire CBA and toss it. They will want to rewrite it for ALPA standards.
12-29-2017, 11:06 AM
#354
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
ALPA will treat us as if we were another regional airline. The larger pilot group always wins, especially at ALPA. This is a very dumb move.
12-29-2017, 11:50 AM
#355
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2017
Position: Heavy
Posts: 187
Originally Posted by maxjet
This may be true. Guess what? We will be the larger ACMI airline
12-29-2017, 12:36 PM
#356
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,275
Originally Posted by maxjet
This may be true. Guess what? We will be the larger ACMI airline
12-29-2017, 01:07 PM
#357
Polyester Pilot
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 777 CA
Posts: 510
Originally Posted by No Land 3
Well, this is outside my control. My feelings have been stated, all I can do is cast my vote. If the Teamsters go away, do we still keep our loss of license insurance?
12-29-2017, 01:42 PM
#359
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Well, this is outside my control. My feelings have been stated, all I can do is cast my vote. If the Teamsters go away, do we still keep our loss of license insurance?
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