ATI management proposed CBA
08-30-2017, 08:53 AM
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ATI management proposed CBA
Company is offering the proposal that went out via email, no doubt Legacy guys are foaming at the mouth. You guys just have to be patient.
This is a slap in the face to our CNC especially when comparing to other airlines.
All I have is an Driod Tablet the attachment is a PDF. Could someone scan with OCR and post PLZ.
This is a slap in the face to our CNC especially when comparing to other airlines.
All I have is an Driod Tablet the attachment is a PDF. Could someone scan with OCR and post PLZ.
08-30-2017, 11:31 AM
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No management is trying to back door this. MEC is not happy with JV's attempt and the pay scale. Legancy guys laughed at JV's pay scale all but one guy and he thinks people should be paying more taxes. If anything this as strengthen the resolve of the pilot group and ALPA.
08-30-2017, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by midnightshuttle
Company is offering the proposal that went out via email, no doubt Legacy guys are foaming at the mouth. You guys just have to be patient.
This is a slap in the face to our CNC especially when comparing to other airlines.
All I have is an Driod Tablet the attachment is a PDF. Could someone scan with OCR and post PLZ.
This is a slap in the face to our CNC especially when comparing to other airlines.
All I have is an Driod Tablet the attachment is a PDF. Could someone scan with OCR and post PLZ.
Arent you the one ragging me for not having a computer???? Now all you have is a tablet???
As for the Legacy guys, yeah your right.......
They are foaming at the mouth PO'd. No one is in favor of those rates.
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08-30-2017, 01:57 PM
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To: All ATI Crewmembers
From: John Vestal
Subject: Pilot contract negotiations
The management team meets with each recurrent class to get a firsthand account of the pilots' perspective and to assist with resolving concerns they may have. We feel this open communication is very important to building a good relationship within the company.
During those meetings, I have fielded numerous questions regarding the parties' progress toward a successor collective bargaining agreement. Crewmembers seemed particularly concerned about how long it would take to reach a new agreement following ALPA's request for mediation under the auspices of the National Mediation Board. That question is very difficult to answer. A couple of years are not an uncommon timeline for a resolution through mediation. I simply cannot say how long it will take given the number of tentative agreements we have reached on individual sections of the collective bargaining agreement, and the parties' respective positions on the remaining open items.
As most of you probably are aware, the parties have reached tentative agreements for most sections of the CBA. We are at the point where the majority of the remaining open items are economic. They include issues related to scheduling, business class travel for international deadheads, per diem, pay scales, and more.
The biggest economic point of interest is pay. We have received proposals from ALP A which sought pay scales and annual pay materially higher than any of our competitors, including pay scales applicable to 747 flying at Atlas and Kalitta, and 767 flying at ABX.
We have proposed pay scales and annual salaries that represent very significant increases over current book. Your committee received and rejected our proposals.
Our operation consists of B757 /767 aircraft and we find ourselves in a great position to capture additionalopportunitieswithourcustomers. However,ourcustomerswantlaborpeaceand competitive cost, which means an amended contract. Getting a deal now puts us in the cat bird seat for capturing a bigger share of the market. We all know, more growth means more upgrades and job security.
Our last proposal offered pay based on the current ABX salaries, minus $10k per year to account for a portion of the value of home basing. We estimate that home basing is worth at least $ 17k per year, so the proposal leaves at least $7k of the value of home basing in the wages. This proposal does not contemplate business class travel, but rather distributes the annual estimated cost of such travel - over $ 1.3M annually - into to the pay tables. That is worth over $5,700 per pilot. This table summarizes that proposal:
The Company and its negotiating committee are committed to reaching an agreement that fairly rewards ATI's crewmembers for their dedication, perseverance, and very valuable contributions, and
at the same time is fiscally responsible and allows us -
competeinaveryaggressiveenvironment. Wewerehopefulthatourproposalwouldopenthedoor to rapid closure and a tentative agreement.
From: John Vestal
Subject: Pilot contract negotiations
The management team meets with each recurrent class to get a firsthand account of the pilots' perspective and to assist with resolving concerns they may have. We feel this open communication is very important to building a good relationship within the company.
During those meetings, I have fielded numerous questions regarding the parties' progress toward a successor collective bargaining agreement. Crewmembers seemed particularly concerned about how long it would take to reach a new agreement following ALPA's request for mediation under the auspices of the National Mediation Board. That question is very difficult to answer. A couple of years are not an uncommon timeline for a resolution through mediation. I simply cannot say how long it will take given the number of tentative agreements we have reached on individual sections of the collective bargaining agreement, and the parties' respective positions on the remaining open items.
As most of you probably are aware, the parties have reached tentative agreements for most sections of the CBA. We are at the point where the majority of the remaining open items are economic. They include issues related to scheduling, business class travel for international deadheads, per diem, pay scales, and more.
The biggest economic point of interest is pay. We have received proposals from ALP A which sought pay scales and annual pay materially higher than any of our competitors, including pay scales applicable to 747 flying at Atlas and Kalitta, and 767 flying at ABX.
We have proposed pay scales and annual salaries that represent very significant increases over current book. Your committee received and rejected our proposals.
Our operation consists of B757 /767 aircraft and we find ourselves in a great position to capture additionalopportunitieswithourcustomers. However,ourcustomerswantlaborpeaceand competitive cost, which means an amended contract. Getting a deal now puts us in the cat bird seat for capturing a bigger share of the market. We all know, more growth means more upgrades and job security.
Our last proposal offered pay based on the current ABX salaries, minus $10k per year to account for a portion of the value of home basing. We estimate that home basing is worth at least $ 17k per year, so the proposal leaves at least $7k of the value of home basing in the wages. This proposal does not contemplate business class travel, but rather distributes the annual estimated cost of such travel - over $ 1.3M annually - into to the pay tables. That is worth over $5,700 per pilot. This table summarizes that proposal:
The Company and its negotiating committee are committed to reaching an agreement that fairly rewards ATI's crewmembers for their dedication, perseverance, and very valuable contributions, and
at the same time is fiscally responsible and allows us -
competeinaveryaggressiveenvironment. Wewerehopefulthatourproposalwouldopenthedoor to rapid closure and a tentative agreement.
08-30-2017, 01:59 PM
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Pay table isn't formatting correctly
Proposed Hourly Wage CA
1. $161.08
2. $174.24
3. $188.14
4. $204.30
5. $214.63
6. $216.90
7. $219.21
8. $221.55
9. $223.89
10.$226.26
11 $228.78
12 $231.30
FO
DOS Proposed Hourly Wage
1 $76.11
2. $99.40
3. $109.41
4 $121.45
5 $130.13
6 $133.87
7 $137.68
8 $141.55
9 $145.47
10 $149.46
11 $153.60
12 $157.7
THERE CTR you all happy now??
Proposed Hourly Wage CA
1. $161.08
2. $174.24
3. $188.14
4. $204.30
5. $214.63
6. $216.90
7. $219.21
8. $221.55
9. $223.89
10.$226.26
11 $228.78
12 $231.30
FO
DOS Proposed Hourly Wage
1 $76.11
2. $99.40
3. $109.41
4 $121.45
5 $130.13
6 $133.87
7 $137.68
8 $141.55
9 $145.47
10 $149.46
11 $153.60
12 $157.7
THERE CTR you all happy now??
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