Western Global pilots help please
#71
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Shhh. Don't tell the douchenozzles.
#73
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 224
What the hell are you talking about? WGA is owned by the Neff's, nothing owned by the Neff's will be good. WGA is a bottom feeder getting flying nobody else wants to do. You are new to the ACMI world and need to talk less and listen to the guys that have been around the world a few hundred times.
#75
Every ACMI is a bottom feeder, every single one. Some pay marginally better than others, each has their own advantages and disadvantages over other ACMI gigs, but by every single measure they are lightyears below the big 3 + UPS and FedEx. If you feel otherwise you’re kidding yourself. Better than a regional? Probably...if you live in a major cargo hub. If not, toss up.
#76
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
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Every ACMI is a bottom feeder, every single one. Some pay marginally better than others, each has their own advantages and disadvantages over other ACMI gigs, but by every single measure they are lightyears below the big 3 + UPS and FedEx. If you feel otherwise you’re kidding yourself. Better than a regional? Probably...if you live in a major cargo hub. If not, toss up.
#77
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Posts: 224
I am a CA at a ACMI airline, and to a point he isn't wrong. I think most people would say ABX likely has the best CBA right now and I think they are on year 10 of their 5 year CBA, and it is light years behind UPS, FEDEX and the 121 Pax Airlines. So the best CBA is still not as good as Spirit let alone one of the big three.
#78
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,035
I am a CA at a ACMI airline, and to a point he isn't wrong. I think most people would say ABX likely has the best CBA right now and I think they are on year 10 of their 5 year CBA, and it is light years behind UPS, FEDEX and the 121 Pax Airlines. So the best CBA is still not as good as Spirit let alone one of the big three.
Thank you ACMI Captain Obvious.
This does not make them "bottom feeders," nor those who work for them a lesser species.
#79
They’re posturing for a new contract, so the sky is falling, and everyone in the industry is garbage. When it passes everything is right in the world. Rinse repeat.
#80
I do and it is. Try not to take it so personally. I actually enjoy my job, and don’t think ACMI is the slave ship that it’s made out to be. But to say that any ACMI is the “best kept secret” or offers ANY advantage in QOL, compensation, retirement, vacation, scheduling, insurance, or travel benefits over the big 3 or UPS + FedEx is insane. Guys really think that because Atlas or Connie or WG buys you a $600 ticket to/from work every month that it is a better job than a non ACMI? You really think you can’t get 13 days off in a row anywhere but an ACMI carrier?
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