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Old 01-11-2022, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by airgoose View Post
Hi everyone,

I had few doubts, if someone can help me out!

Is it true that WGA got quick Upgrade Times?
Does WGA have seat lock?

I have been offered class date from Atlas and WGA, and the only thing attracting me towards WGA is upgrade times. Obviously Atlas pay is higher and now with new pay seems like a airline to retire. (Obviously I don’t have much information about WGA as I have no friends or references working for WGA).
As I understand, WGA upgrades are “merit based”, not seniority based. I don’t think they’re gonna take some dude that’s flown a few years at a regional and in 6 months upgrade him to a widebody Captain flying all over the world with a bunch of other less experienced pilots.

If you don’t have the worldwide experience…you need to get it before you’re in the hot seat. Ever been through the bamboo triangle and dealt with that mess? What about 5 mins from China airspace and Urumqi isn’t answering your radio calls? Do you proceed into China or not? Ever been to a place that gives you altitudes in QFE? That would be a bad one to be surprised by while IMC in the mountains at night. How about something simple…like a last minute(less than 10 miles out) runway change at NRT to the short runway while you have a brand new FO flying…do you accept it or go around and possibly put you in a bad fuel situation? Did you even brief the possibility?

Until you’ve done some of this type of flying….you don’t know what you don’t know.
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Old 01-11-2022, 10:09 AM
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As I understand, WGA upgrades are “merit based”, not seniority based. I don’t think they’re gonna take some dude that’s flown a few years at a regional and in 6 months upgrade him to a widebody Captain flying all over the world with a bunch of other less experienced pilots.

If you don’t have the worldwide experience…you need to get it before you’re in the hot seat. Ever been through the bamboo triangle and dealt with that mess? What about 5 mins from China airspace and Urumqi isn’t answering your radio calls? Do you proceed into China or not? Ever been to a place that gives you altitudes in QFE? That would be a bad one to be surprised by while IMC in the mountains at night. How about something simple…like a last minute(less than 10 miles out) runway change at NRT to the short runway while you have a brand new FO flying…do you accept it or go around and possibly put you in a bad fuel situation? Did you even brief the possibility?

Until you’ve done some of this type of flying….you don’t know what you don’t know.
All that and dealing with monsoon seasons over India and Southeast Asia while trying to understand 100 different ATC dialects ….
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Old 01-11-2022, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingdeagle11 View Post
All that and dealing with monsoon seasons over India and Southeast Asia while trying to understand 100 different ATC dialects ….
ATC dialects is what worries me the most to be honest. I guess you just get used to it at some point
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Old 01-11-2022, 10:28 AM
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All that and dealing with monsoon seasons over India and Southeast Asia while trying to understand 100 different ATC dialects ….
Heck… weather issues are what they are… the greater evil is airports with non-grooved runways.. especially during pre-monsoon rains.

FIR boundaries used to be the big issue of days of yore. Being creative… what to do to avoid those nasty fines for not being able to make contact with the next country’s ATC. Still, I make it a point to initiate contact with the country about 20 minutes prior to reaching their FIR Boundary. Back in the day, for example approaching New Guinea FIR, Port Moresby would not respond. So we’d contact Perth Radio to advise Port Moresby to tell the we are knocking on their door. Saved lots of $$$ in trespassing fees. Now a days, one has many options… 123.45 for other aircraft in the area… Contact company via Sat Phone… Brisbane or Perth Radio… etc. It’s a lot easier today, to avoid these issues. Newbies who’ve flown solely across the Atlantic need additional education about flying in other parts of Planet Earth. Not hard to learn. A couple of trips with seasoned crews should do the trick.

US $$$$ is still king when the airport authority conveniently loses your landing/ground handling permits, customs/immigration, notification, even with copies of stamped approvals in your folder. It’s an inconvenience, but its also part of the cost of doing business. Makes the job interesting…. Just go with the flow. Remember US $$$$$ is king.

How many are old enough to remember MPS, Octas, Metres… etc?

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Old 01-14-2022, 04:11 PM
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Go to Atlas. Mighty Mouse has serious personality issues. Unless you're The One you will rot in the right seat.


Originally Posted by airgoose View Post
so sorry, i got class date. Haven’t started with WGA yet! (also got class date with Atlas) I’m super confused, I got friends at Atlas but no friends at WGA.
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Old 01-15-2022, 05:43 PM
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Thank you everyone! I really appreciate all guidance or inputs you have given to me though this post.
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There is a guy that I follow on Instagram that is an MD-11 captain, and he said that WGA has 777's on order, they just haven't announced it yet. Any truth to that rumor?
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Old 02-04-2022, 09:55 AM
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There is a guy that I follow on Instagram that is an MD-11 captain, and he said that WGA has 777's on order, they just haven't announced it yet. Any truth to that rumor?
Believe it when you hear “V1”.
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Believe it when you hear “V1”.

Geez not even “starting left” anymore lol
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Old 02-06-2022, 12:54 PM
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Interesting situation at WGN today (2/6/22).

One MD11 is flying a revenue mission. The rest are on the ground at SHV or RSW (their maintenance locations), except for 2 that are apparently not-flyable, one at ICN and one at ANC (after #3 engine failure in climb), and one that is in heavy-check at TPE. So all the flyable MD11s but one have returned to either SHV or RSW.

Something up? An AD? Something to do with the FAA? To have 11/12ths of the MD11 fleet (not counting 435KD and 804SN, which have been grounded for years) not operating is certainly an attention-getter, particularly in this high-revenue international cargo environment. I saw where National's chief said the other day that he could fill 10 more 747s than he has.
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