Western Global Airlines
#411
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 393
Hi everyone,
I had few doubts, if someone can help me out!
Is it true that WGA got quick Upgrade Times?
Does WGA have seat lock?
I have been offered class date from Atlas and WGA, and the only thing attracting me towards WGA is upgrade times. Obviously Atlas pay is higher and now with new pay seems like a airline to retire. (Obviously I don’t have much information about WGA as I have no friends or references working for WGA).
I had few doubts, if someone can help me out!
Is it true that WGA got quick Upgrade Times?
Does WGA have seat lock?
I have been offered class date from Atlas and WGA, and the only thing attracting me towards WGA is upgrade times. Obviously Atlas pay is higher and now with new pay seems like a airline to retire. (Obviously I don’t have much information about WGA as I have no friends or references working for WGA).
If you don’t have the worldwide experience…you need to get it before you’re in the hot seat. Ever been through the bamboo triangle and dealt with that mess? What about 5 mins from China airspace and Urumqi isn’t answering your radio calls? Do you proceed into China or not? Ever been to a place that gives you altitudes in QFE? That would be a bad one to be surprised by while IMC in the mountains at night. How about something simple…like a last minute(less than 10 miles out) runway change at NRT to the short runway while you have a brand new FO flying…do you accept it or go around and possibly put you in a bad fuel situation? Did you even brief the possibility?
Until you’ve done some of this type of flying….you don’t know what you don’t know.
#412
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 77
As I understand, WGA upgrades are “merit based”, not seniority based. I don’t think they’re gonna take some dude that’s flown a few years at a regional and in 6 months upgrade him to a widebody Captain flying all over the world with a bunch of other less experienced pilots.
If you don’t have the worldwide experience…you need to get it before you’re in the hot seat. Ever been through the bamboo triangle and dealt with that mess? What about 5 mins from China airspace and Urumqi isn’t answering your radio calls? Do you proceed into China or not? Ever been to a place that gives you altitudes in QFE? That would be a bad one to be surprised by while IMC in the mountains at night. How about something simple…like a last minute(less than 10 miles out) runway change at NRT to the short runway while you have a brand new FO flying…do you accept it or go around and possibly put you in a bad fuel situation? Did you even brief the possibility?
Until you’ve done some of this type of flying….you don’t know what you don’t know.
If you don’t have the worldwide experience…you need to get it before you’re in the hot seat. Ever been through the bamboo triangle and dealt with that mess? What about 5 mins from China airspace and Urumqi isn’t answering your radio calls? Do you proceed into China or not? Ever been to a place that gives you altitudes in QFE? That would be a bad one to be surprised by while IMC in the mountains at night. How about something simple…like a last minute(less than 10 miles out) runway change at NRT to the short runway while you have a brand new FO flying…do you accept it or go around and possibly put you in a bad fuel situation? Did you even brief the possibility?
Until you’ve done some of this type of flying….you don’t know what you don’t know.
#413
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,906
FIR boundaries used to be the big issue of days of yore. Being creative… what to do to avoid those nasty fines for not being able to make contact with the next country’s ATC. Still, I make it a point to initiate contact with the country about 20 minutes prior to reaching their FIR Boundary. Back in the day, for example approaching New Guinea FIR, Port Moresby would not respond. So we’d contact Perth Radio to advise Port Moresby to tell the we are knocking on their door. Saved lots of $$$ in trespassing fees. Now a days, one has many options… 123.45 for other aircraft in the area… Contact company via Sat Phone… Brisbane or Perth Radio… etc. It’s a lot easier today, to avoid these issues. Newbies who’ve flown solely across the Atlantic need additional education about flying in other parts of Planet Earth. Not hard to learn. A couple of trips with seasoned crews should do the trick.
US $$$$ is still king when the airport authority conveniently loses your landing/ground handling permits, customs/immigration, notification, even with copies of stamped approvals in your folder. It’s an inconvenience, but its also part of the cost of doing business. Makes the job interesting…. Just go with the flow. Remember US $$$$$ is king.
How many are old enough to remember MPS, Octas, Metres… etc?
Last edited by captjns; 01-11-2022 at 10:42 AM.
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#418
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
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#420
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 493
Interesting situation at WGN today (2/6/22).
One MD11 is flying a revenue mission. The rest are on the ground at SHV or RSW (their maintenance locations), except for 2 that are apparently not-flyable, one at ICN and one at ANC (after #3 engine failure in climb), and one that is in heavy-check at TPE. So all the flyable MD11s but one have returned to either SHV or RSW.
Something up? An AD? Something to do with the FAA? To have 11/12ths of the MD11 fleet (not counting 435KD and 804SN, which have been grounded for years) not operating is certainly an attention-getter, particularly in this high-revenue international cargo environment. I saw where National's chief said the other day that he could fill 10 more 747s than he has.
One MD11 is flying a revenue mission. The rest are on the ground at SHV or RSW (their maintenance locations), except for 2 that are apparently not-flyable, one at ICN and one at ANC (after #3 engine failure in climb), and one that is in heavy-check at TPE. So all the flyable MD11s but one have returned to either SHV or RSW.
Something up? An AD? Something to do with the FAA? To have 11/12ths of the MD11 fleet (not counting 435KD and 804SN, which have been grounded for years) not operating is certainly an attention-getter, particularly in this high-revenue international cargo environment. I saw where National's chief said the other day that he could fill 10 more 747s than he has.
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