Originally Posted by flgac

ATI Guys, I've been in this industry for 37 years. Two airlines represented by ALPA and the last 26 years by Teamsters. I've been through a total of six contracts and four with ATSG management. You can say what you want about the union representing ABX, however, they know how ATSG management negotiates. They know their moves and threats even before they are made. I strongly recommend the following: At this point in our careers we need unity. There has never been a better time in my 37 year career to be compensated what we are all worth. We must put our differences aside and join together as pilots who work for the same parent company. Our union leadership on both sides must align together and support each group to obtain an ACMI industry standard contract. The work rules and compensation can differ, however, the cost per hour for crews should be the same. If we join together, we'll both end up with an industry standard or leading contract. The TA for ATI is sub-standard. It's better than what you've had, however, it can be much better if you vote NO and join together in negotiations. Both contracts should be signed on the same day with the same basic cost. Remember...... ATSG is reporting record profits! Record Profits! Both airlines can do better than the current TA on the table for ATI. Again, vote NO and then work together for an industry leading contract! It's now or never!

Originally Posted by flgac

ATI Guys, I've been in this industry for 37 years. Two airlines represented by ALPA and the last 26 years by Teamsters. I've been through a total of six contracts and four with ATSG management. You can say what you want about the union representing ABX, however, they know how ATSG management negotiates. They know their moves and threats even before they are made. I strongly recommend the following: At this point in our careers we need unity. There has never been a better time in my 37 year career to be compensated what we are all worth. We must put our differences aside and join together as pilots who work for the same parent company. Our union leadership on both sides must align together and support each group to obtain an ACMI industry standard contract. The work rules and compensation can differ, however, the cost per hour for crews should be the same. If we join together, we'll both end up with an industry standard or leading contract. The TA for ATI is sub-standard. It's better than what you've had, however, it can be much better if you vote NO and join together in negotiations. Both contracts should be signed on the same day with the same basic cost. Remember...... ATSG is reporting record profits! Record Profits! Both airlines can do better than the current TA on the table for ATI. Again, vote NO and then work together for an industry leading contract! It's now or never!

Originally Posted by OverGMcGee

Our CNC tried to go back and ask for an Omni equivalent but couldn’t pull it off. Omni is just more profitable according to out CNC

Originally Posted by Jurassic Jet

The koolaid is strong if you guys believe that crap!

Originally Posted by OverGMcGee

Like it or not this contract is about to pass. Its understood that this will cut others off at the knee, nonetheless it will pass

The group is pretty well split at about 55:45 and not moving. Demographics are all over as well some legacy guys are violently against while some new capts are all for it.

Ive heard there have been very heated debates going on online and on the line. Fact is we are just so far behind catching up isn’t feasible numbers wise. We have to accept it that is also Alpas position judging by the last road show I attended

Our CNC tried to go back and ask for an Omni equivalent but couldn’t pull it off. Omni is just more profitable according to out CNC