Go Back   Airline Pilot Central Forums - Find your next job as a Pilot > >
Cargo Part 121 cargo airlines
 

Welcome to Airline Pilot Forums - Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ. Join our community today and start interacting with existing members. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 10-13-2018, 09:04 AM   #31  
Gets Weekends Off
 
USMCFDX's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 1,303
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gumpscheck View Post
Be more specific. Otherwise I would have to disregard you as a management/Ford&Harrison troll.
Well I said the same thing in the very first post. Why do you want us to do your work for you? There are errors.
USMCFDX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2018, 07:10 PM   #32  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 168
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by USMCFDX View Post
Well I said the same thing in the very first post. Why do you want us to do your work for you? There are errors.
That's weird I see the contracts there can anyone point to a specific contract section? Hard to believe thre are errors when not one person has pointed to a specfic contract reference error. I look thru some of the contracts compaired to the chart and can't find any errors. Hard to say there are errors in the contracts!
Industry Strnd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2018, 07:15 PM   #33  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 168
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gumpscheck View Post
Be more specific. Otherwise I would have to disregard you as a management/Ford&Harrison troll.
Now the Atlas study is up compaired to the majors. I'm sure someone will want to dispute the Delta or United rules. Management trying to place
doubt in the facts.
Hard to argue with the ACMI when the contracts are right there. And they are void of common work rules that even regionals have. Can't wait to see seniority lists at acmi get decimated in the next 2-3 years cause the management is too naive and greedy to pay pilots like everyone else is doing!
Industry Strnd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2018, 11:53 PM   #34  
Fly it like you stole it!
 
brn2fly1's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Position: B757 Captain
Posts: 119
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Industry Strnd View Post
That's weird I see the contracts there can anyone point to a specific contract section? Hard to believe thre are errors when not one person has pointed to a specfic contract reference error. I look thru some of the contracts compaired to the chart and can't find any errors. Hard to say there are errors in the contracts!
Iím not doing you work for you! If you canít pay attention to details thatís your problem. There are at least three errors just between FedEx and UPS. Lord knows how many other errors you have on the chart!
brn2fly1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2018, 11:58 PM   #35  
Fly it like you stole it!
 
brn2fly1's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Position: B757 Captain
Posts: 119
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Industry Strnd View Post
Now the Atlas study is up compaired to the majors. I'm sure someone will want to dispute the Delta or United rules. Management trying to place
doubt in the facts.
Hard to argue with the ACMI when the contracts are right there. And they are void of common work rules that even regionals have. Can't wait to see seniority lists at acmi get decimated in the next 2-3 years cause the management is too naive and greedy to pay pilots like everyone else is doing!
Itís funny how the Atlas Study guide doesnít list one other ACMI carrier in their comparison (Southern doesnít count). It too has multiple errors in it. You guys really need to do a better job when doing your research. Also the article that was pinned to the website about bonus paid to FedEx pilots is incorrect. Those are not bonus. They are part of the sick leave you get paid when you retire.
brn2fly1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2018, 03:02 AM   #36  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,568
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brn2fly1 View Post
Itís funny how the Atlas Study guide doesnít list one other ACMI carrier in their comparison (Southern doesnít count). It too has multiple errors in it. You guys really need to do a better job when doing your research. Also the article that was pinned to the website about bonus paid to FedEx pilots is incorrect. Those are not bonus. They are part of the sick leave you get paid when you retire.
EXACTLY they seem to think their Peers where purple and brown or fly Delta or United jets....get a grip.
HercDriver130 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2018, 03:39 AM   #37  
Challenge Accepted Five
 
BoilerUP's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,893
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
Some of the chartís UPS data is transposed with FDX, perdiem and guarantee and such.
Sometimes I requote myself from Post #10 in this thread...
BoilerUP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2018, 04:45 AM   #38  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 488
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HercDriver130 View Post
EXACTLY they seem to think their Peers where purple and brown or fly Delta or United jets....get a grip.
The truck driver mentality is exactly why most of the Atlas guys were thinking good riddance when you left our union. If you somehow do not see or believe that ATSG, Atlas/Southern, and Kalitta are not in direct competition with UPS and FedEx, then I think we should all be telling you to get a grip.

Whether you realize it or not, Amazon and DHL are using our airlines to go after UPS and FedEx similar to how Southwest went after domestic market share of American, Delta, and United throughout the 1980s and 1990s. If you still don't believe it, I have a sort facility being built in CVG bigger than FedEx in MEM and UPS in SDF combined to sell you.

The ABX and Atlas/Southern pilots do not find it acceptable to allow management to exploit our cheap labor in order to take away high-paying quality jobs at FedEx and UPS. We will continue to fight for industry standard, not just truck driver standard.
JonnyKnoxville is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2018, 04:49 AM   #39  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 488
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brn2fly1 View Post
Itís funny how the Atlas Study guide doesnít list one other ACMI carrier in their comparison (Southern doesnít count). It too has multiple errors in it. You guys really need to do a better job when doing your research. Also the article that was pinned to the website about bonus paid to FedEx pilots is incorrect. Those are not bonus. They are part of the sick leave you get paid when you retire.
All of the data for the Atlas Contract Comparison was verified with your union. Since you have already stated that you have no interest in helping correct any errors you see, it looks like you will have to take it up with ALPA.
JonnyKnoxville is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2018, 07:39 AM   #40  
Fly it like you stole it!
 
brn2fly1's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Position: B757 Captain
Posts: 119
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville View Post
All of the data for the Atlas Contract Comparison was verified with your union. Since you have already stated that you have no interest in helping correct any errors you see, it looks like you will have to take it up with ALPA.
Wow, 1224 knows everything! Actually they are the worst union Iíve belonged too. You have no clue how far your contract comparison is off.
brn2fly1 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
 

 
Reply
 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cargo Flying Jobs lwaddle Hiring News 24 04-15-2018 02:22 PM
Threat of unmanned aviation in cargo... fenix1 Cargo 123 03-26-2018 02:16 PM
Threat of unmanned aviation in cargo... fenix1 Cargo 22 02-10-2018 06:05 PM
Re: RAH Quagmire Major 253 04-16-2011 06:19 AM
Alaska- For Pilots and Mechanics and those interested Kilgore Trout Part 135 46 06-19-2009 03:35 AM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:52 PM.


vBulletin® v3.9.3.5, Copyright ©2000-2019, MH Sub I, LLC dba vBulletin
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1