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Old 10-21-2018, 06:25 AM   #61  
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https://cargofacts.com/atsg-adds-777-platform-through-omni-air-acquisition/

Appears onmi will be a cargo co!

That is not an accurate statement, it is not in the article you cite at all.
Please keep the info fact based, not opinion based.


If they transfer planes years down the road from passenger to freight, and shift the hull to a different subsidiary that specializes in cargo doe snot reflect the deal under the current CBA.


For your website to have value, it has to be a fact based comparison of today and within the duration of the CBA presented without guessing about possible business model changes.
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Old 10-21-2018, 09:09 AM   #62  
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If they transfer planes years down the road from passenger to freight, and shift the hull to a different subsidiary that specializes in cargo doe snot reflect the deal under the current CBA.
Who said anything about converting or moving airplanes?

DHL is buying 10 (if memory serves) 777Fs. Omni stands to grow by a few if ATSG manages to secure part of that business.
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Old 10-22-2018, 07:12 AM   #63  
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Who said anything about converting or moving airplanes?

DHL is buying 10 (if memory serves) 777Fs. Omni stands to grow by a few if ATSG manages to secure part of that business.
you're taking it out of context. The article he quoted said nothing of what he was saying.

The post was saying he can't make comparisons based on what "might happen" and that was an example only to dramatize the point.

You're interpretation of them possibly growing from the deal is also speculation. The point I was making wa to keep his comparison website based upon current facts; not opinions.
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Old 10-31-2018, 02:57 AM   #64  
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I think we all want to use your chart. You've put together lots of data and done a good job organizing it into a readable and usable product.

What I don't understand is your reluctance (and petulance) to adjust incorrect figures. The facts you're asking for are found on this website - look at the airline profiles.

Your responsibility as the creator is to become an expert in knowing where to find the data for each space on the chart. In fact, when I've made similar charts I would note in each chart space where I found the source data. Makes it easy to verify when questions present themselves. I suspect some of your errors are in transposing the data from your collection spot to the chart. Proofread then publish.

Last - Please take criticism in the way it was meant, just to help you get it right. Why would managers want to confuse people on guarantee and pay? It's simply looked up on APC and in each contract. It's easier to obscure the finer points.

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To be clear, I did not make any of this. I merely shared the link here. The guys that made it read these forums, so feel free to continue posting corrections as necessary.
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Old 10-31-2018, 12:35 PM   #65  
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you're taking it out of context. The article he quoted said nothing of what he was saying.

The post was saying he can't make comparisons based on what "might happen" and that was an example only to dramatize the point.


You're interpretation of them possibly growing from the deal is also speculation. The point I was making wa to keep his comparison website based upon current facts; not opinions.
I think most people reading this get the general idea of whats going on at the different airlines even if it's not down to the last penny. Also the correction posts should help to clear up some of it. If someone uses this as their only guide and picks Southern or ABX over Fedex or UPS...100% accuracy would not help that much.
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Old 12-22-2018, 12:40 PM   #66  
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Old 12-28-2018, 03:28 PM   #67  
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In present market and retirement rates, today's new hires at FedEx or UPS will be Captain at 10 years if they choose. Don't discount these two contracts additional DCP and DBP compensation which is not insignificant plus higher monthly guarantee hours.
Cant accurately foretell the future at any place though.
I have just worked at both Airlines. Current projection for UPS first upgrade will be 6-7 years and FedEx First wide-body upgrade approximately 8 years.
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My current window is just under 10 years. None of the majors or UPS/FedEx will touch me as I’ve been in the same seat too long and am deemed “untrainable”. Also my GPA from college was less than a 3.0 (double major, drilling with the Guard, well known tough school). So I would have to go somewhere else first to be trained and “prove myself”. By the time I am trained elsewhere, get an interview date, maybe a successful interview, put in the pool, get a class date... I’m down to maybe 8 years. With compressed time the advantages diminish.
There are many UPS and FedEx pilots being hired with 6-10 years left in their career. Why would you say you were untrainable?
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I have just worked at both Airlines. Current projection for UPS first upgrade will be 6-7 years and FedEx First wide-body upgrade approximately 8 years.
FedEx has numerous under 3 year Captains. I bet this next bid will have WB Captain awarded to someone under 5 years. Bid is usually Jan/Feb.
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FedEx has numerous under 3 year Captains. I bet this next bid will have WB Captain awarded to someone under 5 years. Bid is usually Jan/Feb.
How many of the under 3 year pilots are trained and in pay status as Captain?
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