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Old 08-09-2021, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by luckycharms View Post
Haha, just can’t let it go can you? You left to go back to your major airline, and you still can’t just leave. You got to be heard because you were wronged by big bad Amerijet. Can you show us on the doll where Amerijet touched you?

You realize you’re on an island all by you self here right? I’d invite you to spend more time worrying about your pilot group than what goes on in APC lol

There’s multiple people here providing facts about Amerijet, if they hurt your feelings, again, address them, grow thicker skin, or leave the forum so you don’t have to see them. Where did I say I was “wronged by Amerijet”? Do you have to resort to just making up rhetoric now because you don’t have anything else?

Seems like you just have a personal issue with certain people and are more interested in childish little attacks.

Can you show us where the mainline pilot hurt you on the doll? You realize that’s a running joke among others? What a temper tantrum my goodness lol

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Old 08-09-2021, 04:56 PM
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This forum is to be used to inform pilots of the conditions, QOL, pay, the status of an airline. this has become an extension of the pathetic "pilot support group" on WhatsApp.

First of all, to all readers, the handle, Luckycharms, is a burned account that our MEC chair created to talk bad about our previous DO who happened to be from Ireland. that's how sad this MEC chair is. he is now at war, as he has in the past, with personal pilots who come from bigger and better airlines than he has ever worked at. As a matter of fact, if you talk to SM, he will tell you all the failed airlines he has worked for. This man has no idea what a real airline is, not even remotely so. he gets off by calling out people on forums like these, or WhatsApp, who come from legacy carriers or are ex-pats. He wants to be the big bad boy of the "hill" he started.

This man has no room to talk. he is literally picking fights with pilots who are laughing their way to the bank. He tried to even call out pilots who came from Delta, an airline that this man will NEVER EVER have the pleasure to work at. SMis all he has and he thinks that this place is going to be bigger and better than UPS, or so he alleged thinks. but just give is 2-3 years, and he always likes to tell people.
by then the only people running the airline are the lifers who will never see what a real airline is.

The reality is gentlemen, for us who come from real airlines with real union representation will never see such acts of pathetic child play. A MEC chair, a president, who steps so LOW to come and pick fights with legacy pilots who have their careers to look forward to, screams ENVY through and through. we are all professionals and we should all be encouraging one another and not coveting what the other ones have. If the United pilots can recommend and refer pilots from here, then by all means! that's what ALPA is supposed to stand for. but not SM, he just covets what others have and things he will never have.

Let's talk now about our hard-earned monthly dues. Another MEC pilot has been using OUR hard-earned funds in CVG inviting any pilot he sees nightly out for an "ALPA" appreciation meal. going out to Twin Peaks in CVG almost every night to indulge himself with OUR money! oh, and let's not forget that the loadmasters also get their free meal with our hard-earned money. Makes me wonder where the Treasurer is.
I'm all for looking at women but this man is out there gawking at the waitress every day.

So there we have it, Amerijets ALPA. a bunch of failed pilots who are doing exactly what the other union was doing. Using our funds for their own personal gain.

So of us have had the pleasure of still being in touch with the COO that when he drinks he lets out everything we want to hear. also the pride he holds in knowing that he is holding the MEC chair by the balls and taking him for a ride. So there you have it, folks, our MEC is not only pathetic and childish but he is also in bed with the COO.


As far as the airline is concerned, it gets worst. our same MEC chair used to be our old DO. and left this airline in shambles, manuals that are useless, an ETOPS manual that does not reflect the International flight manual. a GOM that can't even address what needs to be amended. a training department that is composed of a woman who has NO CLUE what she is doing. three directors of training that did not last more than two months on the job because everything is so screwed up. a Chief pilot who would not ever stay as a senior line check airman for a start up airline that is not even flying. 3 DOs, that have not been able to make a single stride for the airline.
Captains that can barely even speak English much less fly a 767. including our MEC and volunteers, mind you. Checkairman who think it's okay to take off out of a runway without numbers, or "if the other one is shorter then its fine to take the bigger one". American Airline retirees stealing the bread and butter from the table of hard Line pilots-- what did the union ever do to address this? NOTHING.
oh and then there as the pathetic GIFS of our beloved MEC with the words "it's not on the CBA" all over the supposed "support Chat".
Burnt out volunteers, burnt-out schedulers, and dispatchers. you name it, this airline has it. I have been at bad airlines but this one is truly a treat. Im surprised the FAA allows this place to even run.

this airline is a joke and an accident waiting to happen. the MEC does not find it a problem at ALL that we have shut down our training and there is an exodus of experienced pilots leaving in droves. leaving the Spanglish speakers who can't fly to handle the bulk of the airline.
we have 757s painted and ready to go but no one can fly them. but OHHHH we have the MEC chair telling other pilots to ask about the 757s in the town hall meeting because he has no balls to address it himself. but yea, he likes to state that he likes to do "Gangster *******T" yeah he does, like the manuals he produces, complete gangster garbage (wipes his ass with regulations). Good thing the woman at publications throws him under the bus every time.

guys, if you care about your certificates, your lives, and your profession, LEAVE! many of us already have classes at other carriers. leave before someone plants one on the ground and this airline becomes a stain on your resume.
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Old 08-09-2021, 07:40 PM
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Dear Cazador, at least that’s who I think you are, you got the wrong person but if you were trying to get me to speak then i’m here now… As I told you when you sent an email to the COO, looking like an official union communication when it was not, and the MEC removed you from the membership committee, you can throw all the shade you want toward the MEC the majority of the group does not see it that way. They saw a pilot, whom we welcomed with open arms from another airline, that was stirring the pot just to stir the pot. Obviously you can’t let it go, you have attacked my good name and other people such as wcandee for expressing an opinion that was not your own. Brother you came here, you did a lot of good work, and you moved on… what do you have to complain about still? Bubba I don’t need to hide behind anything, and if you have something to say to me then I welcome you to say it here in the open forum or in private message, I believe you still have my phone number and my phone is on all the time. However I’ll stand behind anybody here that asks the question “what does he have to complain about” because I ask myself that question also. Yeah it’s real fun to stir up stink in the message board, but besides a few people I am very disappointed in right now, not many people bought off on your rhetoric. Most people I have spoken to had the view that you were just passing through and had a major airline job to return to, so why are you complaining so much… although that may be a hard pill for you to swallow when you’re looking for attention. You were here, thank you for everything you helped accomplish, and now you’re back at your original airline. Be happy, go forth, and commit aviation knowing you don’t have to work as such a crappy place such as Amerijet ever again.

Guys I’ll be the first person to admit that Amerijet is AFU right now, and there are a lot of great people that are working very hard to change that for the entire group. As I said before I believe in my heart that if we can give this place another two years to grow into the CEO’s vision, and I’ll fight on that hill to make sure we do everything we can to get there. If you don’t believe that is the goal of the MEC, the negotiating committee, or myself personally then you are dead wrong. The MEC and myself will represent this pilot group as long as they will have us, and I know with some hard work and a lot of solidarity we will take this place to the next level with a great CBA and will allow long term stability for anybody who wishes to stay.
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Old 08-09-2021, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mudflap757 View Post
Dear Cazador, at least that’s who I think you are, you got the wrong person but if you were trying to get me to speak then i’m here now… As I told you when you sent an email to the COO, looking like an official union communication when it was not, and the MEC removed you from the membership committee, you can throw all the shade you want toward the MEC the majority of the group does not see it that way. They saw a pilot, whom we welcomed with open arms from another airline, that was stirring the pot just to stir the pot. Obviously you can’t let it go, you have attacked my good name and other people such as wcandee for expressing an opinion that was not your own. Brother you came here, you did a lot of good work, and you moved on… what do you have to complain about still? Bubba I don’t need to hide behind anything, and if you have something to say to me then I welcome you to say it here in the open forum or in private message, I believe you still have my phone number and my phone is on all the time. However I’ll stand behind anybody here that asks the question “what does he have to complain about” because I ask myself that question also. Yeah it’s real fun to stir up stink in the message board, but besides a few people I am very disappointed in right now, not many people bought off on your rhetoric. Most people I have spoken to had the view that you were just passing through and had a major airline job to return to, so why are you complaining so much… although that may be a hard pill for you to swallow when you’re looking for attention. You were here, thank you for everything you helped accomplish, and now you’re back at your original airline. Be happy, go forth, and commit aviation knowing you don’t have to work as such a crappy place such as Amerijet ever again.

Guys I’ll be the first person to admit that Amerijet is AFU right now, and there are a lot of great people that are working very hard to change that for the entire group. As I said before I believe in my heart that if we can give this place another two years to grow into the CEO’s vision, and I’ll fight on that hill to make sure we do everything we can to get there. If you don’t believe that is the goal of the MEC, the negotiating committee, or myself personally then you are dead wrong. The MEC and myself will represent this pilot group as long as they will have us, and I know with some hard work and a lot of solidarity we will take this place to the next level with a great CBA and will allow long term stability for anybody who wishes to stay.


While this is a well timed and good attempt at a clean up message, Luckycharms is a confirmed MEC made account, so while your message sounds all nice, the messages that came from that account today were very eye opening but I’m glad people can see how those in a leadership position will respond to people who don’t have their views.

Unfortunately, I don’t think you’re fooling as many people as you think. Multiple union volunteer and MEC volunteers have recently stepped down and others have communicated a lack of vision and leadership. That’s just a fact. While I know you don’t like to hear that, it’s true. Those are not my opinions but those of them. You can’t point to anything I’ve complained about specifically here other than responding or agreeing with other pilots points of view. However, if you or another elected rep attack others, I will “complain” about that.

Also, the number of public and private messages those of us who moved on received thanking us for being voices of reason for the pilot group and fighting for them were too numerous to count. You’re welcome to see those as well if you want to PM me, so your points fall flat on their face. Either you don’t have a great touch on the pulse of your pilot groups opinions or you’re spinning rhetoric. Maybe both? I’m not sure.

Potential pilots for this company come to ask questions and several pilots have voiced those concerns, but I won’t take too kindly to MEC propagated attacks against fellow friends of mine and I will refute those. Again, you may not like it, but you’re welcome to exit the forum.


In fact to speak to “luckycharms” ask for proof we “saved anything,” how does an email from the COO to those who did the work dated March 31 that states “thank you for all the hard work to make our training compliant…your dedication to the company and professionalism are a tremendous asset …I’m grateful to have you all onboard.” sound? The work produced during that time is still also still being used by Amerijet training and approved by the FAA. Strangely enough, the 757 materials led by others are not…

We can agree to disagree whether it’s you, your other luckycharms account, your friends from ATI/ABX, I welcome it all, but let’s stick to truths and stay away from attacks and be professionals.

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Old 08-09-2021, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by aviator249 View Post
We can agree to disagree whether it’s you, you or your other cohorts luckycharms account, your friends from ATI/ABX, I welcome it all, but let’s stick to truths and stay away from attacks and be professionals.
Let me be very un-professional and say “you first”, and I’ll lead by your example.
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Old 08-09-2021, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mudflap757 View Post
Let me be very un-professional and say “you first”, and I’ll lead by your example.
Well, you won’t find me using terms like “sh**ing on the CEOs” desk, or using fake APC accounts to attack fellow pilots, so I’d say your “following of my example” might want to be reevaluated! Just like a former chief pilot at Amerijet used to always say, it’s a small community! Best of luck I hope the CBA is everything the pilot group desires.
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Old 08-09-2021, 10:04 PM
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Damn, you guys are really going at it huh? I just had to make an account since all this activity is going on. Let’s change topics. Tell me how you feel about the maintenance here.
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Old 08-10-2021, 05:49 AM
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so there you have it folks. an MEC chair that literally will come on the message boards to bun you if he doesn't like you. And he is budy budy with the CEO but wants to crap on his desk.

remember the time when no one knew what amerijet even was? well please go back to that. every airline is now hiring, and your certificate will thank you.

real info about this place.

1. they have canceled all classes until October. a July class was pushed to august and now canceled. people who quit their jobs to come here and are now totally unemployed.
2. you will be in training for about 5 months and trained by ex AA airline guys who don't have a clue about amerijet.
3. if you actually make it out on the line, you will be lucky enough to have the FO MEC rep take you out to eat every day at twin peaks with the Union pilots dues credit card. our Dues "hard" at work, literally.
4. by the end of 6 months you are wishing you never came here.

over 40% attrition since January, we have lost 42 pilots and have just about 170 (out which 15 are in training)

you will come at a time where FO open time is being offered to captains because.... let's face it, we don't have pilots.

the best part of it all, if you don't get burned by the MEC, you will also enjoy

1. No chief pilot
2. No Director or Operations
3. No director of training
4. No scheduling manager
5. dispatchers who have no clue how to dispatch
6. schedules that have no clue what they are doing
7. 757s that are parked in the humid climate of Miami
6. ALPA MEC who is in bed with management.

please apply within!
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Old 08-10-2021, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by stevecantfly View Post
so there you have it folks. an MEC chair that literally will come on the message boards to bun you if he doesn't like you. And he is budy budy with the CEO but wants to crap on his desk.

remember the time when no one knew what amerijet even was? well please go back to that. every airline is now hiring, and your certificate will thank you.

real info about this place.

1. they have canceled all classes until October. a July class was pushed to august and now canceled. people who quit their jobs to come here and are now totally unemployed.
2. you will be in training for about 5 months and trained by ex AA airline guys who don't have a clue about amerijet.
3. if you actually make it out on the line, you will be lucky enough to have the FO MEC rep take you out to eat every day at twin peaks with the Union pilots dues credit card. our Dues "hard" at work, literally.
4. by the end of 6 months you are wishing you never came here.

over 40% attrition since January, we have lost 42 pilots and have just about 170 (out which 15 are in training)

you will come at a time where FO open time is being offered to captains because.... let's face it, we don't have pilots.

the best part of it all, if you don't get burned by the MEC, you will also enjoy

1. No chief pilot
2. No Director or Operations
3. No director of training
4. No scheduling manager
5. dispatchers who have no clue how to dispatch
6. schedules that have no clue what they are doing
7. 757s that are parked in the humid climate of Miami
6. ALPA MEC who is in bed with management.

please apply within!
Well, I guess more people feel this way than others would have people believe. What did someone say about “hard pills to swallow” again?

Hope for your sake it improves if you’re still there. The member dues thing is especially concerning from an ALPA organizational standpoint. Yikes. The good in this though is now people can see it for what it is, and make an informed decision.
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Old 09-08-2021, 10:34 PM
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I see that your new 757 made it over to spot N4 in MIA. Do you have crews trained on it already? When and where is/was the first revenue flight?
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