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Quote: If the program means going from flying a 172 to a 767….yeah, sounds so good. Make yourself a favor and fly a jet/turboprop with less auto-everything so that you can gain some valuable skills and experience. Flying a crj to a small town is not that exciting but you gotta fly the damn thing.
Going from a 172 to a WB, including international routes…..good lord.
What he said......from an instructor's standpoint, wow that would be alot of work.
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Quote: What he said......from an instructor's standpoint, wow that would be alot of work.
The majority of airlines around the world hire people that aren't even pilots to begin with, they hire a particular profile and then send these individuals to pilot training. Is not uncommon to see folks with a fresh multiengine rating go directly to the right seat of a 777. Of course, this process takes several years of training, and it won't work with a 6-week training profile. If the airlines in the USA want to start giving opportunities to very low experienced pilots or even cadet programs, they need to adjust training accordingly.

But I remind you all that this was done before at the beginning of the 2000's with the PFT craze. I personally trained many 500 pilots with a fresh CRJ rating. It is possible!
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Quote: The majority of airlines around the world hire people that aren't even pilots to begin with, they hire a particular profile and then send these individuals to pilot training. Is not uncommon to see folks with a fresh multiengine rating go directly to the right seat of a 777. Of course, this process takes several years of training, and it won't work with a 6-week training profile. If the airlines in the USA want to start giving opportunities to very low experienced pilots or even cadet programs, they need to adjust training accordingly.

But I remind you all that this was done before at the beginning of the 2000's with the PFT craze. I personally trained many 500 pilots with a fresh CRJ rating. It is possible!
A lot of those countries discourage hand flying or even make the A/P call out at 400’ an SOP. US trained pilots and the pilots trained in other countries are not the same.
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Quote: A lot of those countries discourage hand flying or even make the A/P call out at 400’ an SOP. US trained pilots and the pilots trained in other countries are not the same.
You are 100% correct, training here in the US is very light when compared to countries under EASA for example. Many companies have a very extensive handflying training and spend a lot of time flying the aircraft completely by hand. Some even have mandatory aerobatic training yearly as part of their competency requirements.

Don't assume that Japan is the same as Indonesia or that training in Germany is the same as Turkey. You can't generalize like that because here in the US we have very minimal training requirements.
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Quote: You are 100% correct, training here in the US is very light when compared to countries under EASA for example. Many companies have a very extensive handflying training and spend a lot of time flying the aircraft completely by hand. Some even have mandatory aerobatic training yearly as part of their competency requirements.

Don't assume that Japan is the same as Indonesia or that training in Germany is the same as Turkey. You can't generalize like that because here in the US we have very minimal training requirements.
Theres no assumption at all. The Europeans have a totally different model though. They screen their pilots (for the most part) before they even get behind the controls. They do approach airline training differently. They’re taught to be airline pilots with airline procedures from Day 1. On the other hand, the Arabs and Asians (particularly Japan and China) have some of the worst hand flying pilots.

I sat next to a 3000 hour Japanese pilots in a B737 sim. He couldn’t follow a flight director to save his life. Is this to say every Japanese pilot is bad? Absolutely not. But it goes to show that the mentality of US trained pilots are different. We “fly the plane first” while others are “A/P On.”
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Quote: Theres no assumption at all. The Europeans have a totally different model though. They screen their pilots (for the most part) before they even get behind the controls. They do approach airline training differently. They’re taught to be airline pilots with airline procedures from Day 1. On the other hand, the Arabs and Asians (particularly Japan and China) have some of the worst hand flying pilots.

I sat next to a 3000 hour Japanese pilots in a B737 sim. He couldn’t follow a flight director to save his life. Is this to say every Japanese pilot is bad? Absolutely not. But it goes to show that the mentality of US trained pilots are different. We “fly the plane first” while others are “A/P On.”
On the contrary, you sat next to one pilot and assumed that the entire aviation system of the country is the same. I was a line check airman and instructor in Japan for 14 years. Their abilities are no different than anyone else's and their training is a lot more comprehensive.

I've trained hundreds upon hundreds of pilots here in the US, I've come across more than a few that can't hand fly to save their lives either. What I'm getting at is. Don't paint with a wide brush, it usually leads to the wrong assumption.
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Quote: On the contrary, you sat next to one pilot and assumed that the entire aviation system of the country is the same. I was a line check airman and instructor in Japan for 14 years. Their abilities are no different than anyone else's and their training is a lot more comprehensive.

I've trained hundreds upon hundreds of pilots here in the US, I've come across more than a few that can't hand fly to save their lives either. What I'm getting at is. Don't paint with a wide brush, it usually leads to the wrong assumption.
Like I said, no assumption. That’s why I said “Is this to say every Japanese pilot is bad? Absolutely not.”
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Quote: I was wondering if Amerijet would be a good first airline to start as.
I recently got accepted into Florida Institute of Technology and they have a pilot program with AJT.
IDK if it would be better to gain hours at a smaller carrier such as Ameriflight but flying right seat of a 75/76 a year after graduating seems pretty good to me.
You need to understand that it will be hard to accomplish, not impossible but pretty hard for someone with very low experience. The reason being that these training programs are not really designed as cadet programs are, you need to have some level of experience beforehand. There is a ground instructor for example that is a low time pilot gaining experience, very sharp and he got rated and is now instructing while he gains experience and his ATP mins. So it is most definitely doable!

However, you need to think about the risk/rewards equation here. A failed training event is something that will follow you for the rest of your career and something you will have to talk about in every interview you will take going forward. I would suggest talking to your instructors and trying to get in touch with somebody that has done it before, then you will get a better sense of what's ahead. If it feels like something you will be overwhelmed with. Then trying to get experience at a smaller airline or a part 135 outfit might be better suited for you.

Good luck on your decision.
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With what the regionals are paying now, I’d think that would be a much better path. Their training is more tailored for an individual joining their first airline. That’s assuming the regional model still exists in a couple years I guess…..
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Quote: My buddy Pablo from AmeriJet said replica of K4 contract and pay.
What's the word on the Amerijet TA? Is it set to pass anytime soon? K4 contract is not that good. They can be assigned to a 24 or 26 hour duty day and no cancellation pay and no daily rate no trip rigs no duty rigs either. Everything is in Connie's favor!
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