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05-09-2007 | 08:28 AM
#251
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...what was the FIRST issue where we didn't get a voice?
Not biting on the "company offer" a couple years back was baking up our negoatiating committee. What other issue did I miss? (Warning--I get easily distracted and have a short memory...this is not a smart-alec question)
Not biting on the "company offer" a couple years back was baking up our negoatiating committee. What other issue did I miss? (Warning--I get easily distracted and have a short memory...this is not a smart-alec question)
05-09-2007 | 09:16 AM
#252
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From: MD11 CRA
"...what was the FIRST issue where we didn't get a voice?"
How our scope penalty money would be used. It was supposed to come to us, instead it went to a fund for retiree health care whether we wanted it to or not. Not a huge deal at face value ($300 or so I think). At the time I had no problem with it but it was obviously a precendent setting move where the MEC told the members that they know better than they do about what is best for them. No vote, no poll, no say. Just like now.
How our scope penalty money would be used. It was supposed to come to us, instead it went to a fund for retiree health care whether we wanted it to or not. Not a huge deal at face value ($300 or so I think). At the time I had no problem with it but it was obviously a precendent setting move where the MEC told the members that they know better than they do about what is best for them. No vote, no poll, no say. Just like now.
05-09-2007 | 09:26 AM
#253
...Whatever It Is!
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Don't be so sure of yourself on this one. There is a guy that turned 60 in late Oct, still shows up as the #1 guy on the DC-10 CAP list and listed as NQN on his calendar, starting at his 60th b'day. Why does he still have a calendar if he's not trying to wait out the over 60 change by just taking a leave of absence?
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05-09-2007 | 09:37 AM
#254
...Whatever It Is!
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Also, I had a friend turn 60 last Jan. The co. told him he could go on personal Leave of Absence for up to 90 days. Per section 13 of the contract, you can apply for additional 90 day extentions for up to 24 months. During this period, you get no pay and no pension and your longevity stops after 60 days. Let's see, do we know anybody dumb enough to do this just so he can fly till he dies? I mean, other than George?
Uh, yes we probably do know some people dumb enough!
05-09-2007 | 09:42 AM
#255
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Contract 13.A.5
5. A pilot on a leave of absence shall not engage in other flying employment without prior written permission from the System Chief Pilot.
One of JL's final signatures as CP?
05-09-2007 | 09:43 AM
#256
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Watch DC return be able to sleep in the left seat at show time of a line check.
Don't be so sure of yourself on this one. There is a guy that turned 60 in late Oct, still shows up as the #1 guy on the DC-10 CAP list and listed as NQN on his calendar, starting at his 60th b'day. Why does he still have a calendar if he's not trying to wait out the over 60 change by just taking a leave of absence?
Don't be so sure of yourself on this one. There is a guy that turned 60 in late Oct, still shows up as the #1 guy on the DC-10 CAP list and listed as NQN on his calendar, starting at his 60th b'day. Why does he still have a calendar if he's not trying to wait out the over 60 change by just taking a leave of absence?
I think the NQN calendar just means that they are still on the master list.
05-09-2007 | 09:51 AM
#257
...Whatever It Is!
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A friend of mine who retired (at age 60) this year 2007 still has a calendar and is shown NQN. He said he has absolutely no intent on coming back, doesn't even miss it. He's enjoying flying too much, oops I mean fly fishing.
I think the NQN calendar just means that they are still on the master list.
I think the NQN calendar just means that they are still on the master list.
05-09-2007 | 09:52 AM
#258
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"...what was the FIRST issue where we didn't get a voice?"
How our scope penalty money would be used. It was supposed to come to us, instead it went to a fund for retiree health care whether we wanted it to or not. Not a huge deal at face value ($300 or so I think). At the time I had no problem with it but it was obviously a precendent setting move where the MEC told the members that they know better than they do about what is best for them. No vote, no poll, no say. Just like now.
How our scope penalty money would be used. It was supposed to come to us, instead it went to a fund for retiree health care whether we wanted it to or not. Not a huge deal at face value ($300 or so I think). At the time I had no problem with it but it was obviously a precendent setting move where the MEC told the members that they know better than they do about what is best for them. No vote, no poll, no say. Just like now.
05-09-2007 | 10:15 AM
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