Cujo

....PRICELESS !! Way too funny

fedupbusdriver

Eggman,

Better jump off of that cornflake, I think it might be getting soggy. Try one of those raisins, they float.

Albief15

I will gladly give blood to a RETIRED captain. Those guys on the line might not be so lucky... (just in fun guys...support this guy)

I don't want you as council chairman. There are offices, however, which you might be aptly suited for.

And leave it to a heavy driver to have a spoon on him... Some things never change... You aren't all bad--the fine folks at Kessler showed a WC-130 to my daughter earlier this week. Guys may have a spoon in their flightsuit pocket, but anyone going into a Hurricane probably also has some kind of apparatus to hold their big balls....

RockyTopFlyer

The spoon was hilarious. Seriously, thanks for the link. I had lost my pin also.

RTF

BrownGirls YUM

Between seeing where Tony stood on the LOA and what I heard about his age 60 stance (in fairness, anecdotal only), I would be reluctant to vote for what sadly seems like the same old story.

I was hoping and really expecting that wouldn't be the case, but after seeing his AOC spin on the LOA, I came away feeling like I had just seen another party-line guy. I was bummed, to say the least, and no less surprised at the time.

frozenboxhauler

And they also make excellent styluses for you EFB boys and girls!
fbh

Albief15

Well...I can't speak for him. He's been the DO in the union the last week, so I imagine his fun meter is pegged right now.

I told you I wanted Vic as chair. Vote as you see fit--but I know what Vic wants and although he's a d@mn yankee (that's a yankee that moves south and stays...) I think his platform on improving comm is vital. However, if you make any of us the chair I am confident we can find a way to work together. Tony and I disagree on "how" sometimes but I think his vision is generally similar to what Vic and I envision. If its not--I'll be the first to say so.

And...if I don't like how guys vote on issues, I'll vote the way I see for block 7. I for one am done with 12/0 and 11/1 votes. I'll tell you what I think is good--and what isn't. I have never thought supporting the union or "unity" hinged on Orwellian mind melding. I may vote against something, but that doesn't mean I won't ultimately support the union. You cannot win every argument (ref: my wife) but you don't have to always nod with the crowd. Tony and I have discussed this in the past... I know there ARE some contentious battles behind closed doors. I just don't think you need to whitewash the walls and then say it is 12:0. I think a 7:5 vote on some issues might be easier for guys to swallow. Sometimes you win, sometimes you take one for the team. But you always fight for your guys. (My favorite analogy: Fighter squadron flight commander. Yes...your guy went into IPUG before mine, but I'm pushing him to get in as soon possible. But when we send the recs to the DO and weapons officer we live with the call they make)


Well...if you check his seniority number my prediction is he won't be back on the MD11 in MEM for some time due to the latest bid. That means ANC or a bid to the bus...IF there are any vacanies not filled by more senior folks. I may be completely wrong, but we'll know in Feb. I think if he gets to commute to ANC for a while or suffers through a training course on the light jet, its safe to say he's going to "walk the walk" for supporting seniority rights. I can't say the same thing for some other folks. Its easier to take "suck it up, fatty" from someone who's also paying a price. So--I say--give him the benefit of the doubt and see what happens. And to an extent unmatched by other reps--he'll engage you and discuss it. I don't always like his position--but I think he has integrity and does what he honestly thinks is best for the team.

Albief15

I disagreed vehemently on this one too. Burned quite a few cell phone minutes with some of the MEC. However, some on the MEC seemed to genuinely think that the flying would be lost if we didn't "grab" it when we had the chance. As someone who sells sim training to guys getting ready for interviews at JALways, Emirates, Cathay, etc....I didn't think there was exactly of glut of companies, jets, or people ready to be entrusted enough with the "purple promise", and I thought there was a lot more leverage than they did. If you remember--the vote after the STV amendment had more dissention than the original vote--because SOME Of the MEC starting to smell that leverage.

I would have given the flying to someone else before I sent our guys non-vol from home 90 days... That's how much I detested the STV clause...

However--the stated goal of everyone for the LOA was we would SECURE the flying--then pursue more benefits once we had it nailed down. Write that down...remember it...especially you guys in the FDAs. You'll have your own reps shortly, and if you DO NOT see improvements in our next contract then you can vote raise hell, vote no, or do whatever you think is required. We'll see just how much support you get. I haven't forgotten--and trust me--I'll be reminding them.

So--back to the point. I hated the LOA. I detested the STV clause and though anyone who would accept that was out of touch with the masses and was an awful rep--especially voting for it on a junior blocks. However--their hope was lock down the flying. Right or wrong...that part did happen. I wish the scope clause looked more like UPS's, but we get to live with what we got.

MajorKong

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Cosnuts

Brown, you're dead on correct re Tony C and his whole hearted support of the unfortunate LOA. What's sad is now, this LOA becomes the baseline for future negotiations on FDAs. Not Chapter 6 which the Company and MEC with their 11-1 vote effectively removed from our contract. Certainly Vic, and I'm sure Albie (along with EI while he's still there) have what it takes to stand up to DW and the status quo. The numbers are starting to look better.

Cos