LEC 22 Elections
#1
Please go vote for LEC 22 officers. Believe it or not, now that you have elected us block reps, you get to decide who is the LEC chair, vice chair and second runner up (sec/treasurer).
Generally--the most senior guys ends up at chair, the second most as vice, and so on. While I'd really like to be Czar
I think putting Vic as chair, Tony as vice, and me as shoe-shine boy makes sense.
Again--it may seem stupid--but vote. Get in the habit NOW of getting involved. If you'll vote when its not a major event, maybe you'll be more likely to vote when it does matter.
Generally--the most senior guys ends up at chair, the second most as vice, and so on. While I'd really like to be Czar
I think putting Vic as chair, Tony as vice, and me as shoe-shine boy makes sense.Again--it may seem stupid--but vote. Get in the habit NOW of getting involved. If you'll vote when its not a major event, maybe you'll be more likely to vote when it does matter.
#2
Please go vote for LEC 22 officers. Believe it or not, now that you have elected us block reps, you get to decide who is the LEC chair, vice chair and second runner up (sec/treasurer).
Generally--the most senior guys ends up at chair, the second most as vice, and so on. While I'd really like to be Czar
I think putting Vic as chair, Tony as vice, and me as shoe-shine boy makes sense.
Again--it may seem stupid--but vote. Get in the habit NOW of getting involved. If you'll vote when its not a major event, maybe you'll be more likely to vote when it does matter.
Generally--the most senior guys ends up at chair, the second most as vice, and so on. While I'd really like to be Czar
I think putting Vic as chair, Tony as vice, and me as shoe-shine boy makes sense.Again--it may seem stupid--but vote. Get in the habit NOW of getting involved. If you'll vote when its not a major event, maybe you'll be more likely to vote when it does matter.
Your unified success benefits us and vice versa in this business.
#4
#5
As a guy who makes a lot of money coaching people for airline interviews, I'll venture to say age 65 hurt me as much or more than most folks.
It blows. We got screwed. DW did us no favors with the retro work.
So--now what? I could carp on the sidelines, or get involved. I chose the latter...and this won't be the last battle. FWIW...there are some ideas out there on ways to help offset (not eliminate) some of the financial damage caused by this change. I promise I'll be working to bring those to the forefront...
It blows. We got screwed. DW did us no favors with the retro work.
So--now what? I could carp on the sidelines, or get involved. I chose the latter...and this won't be the last battle. FWIW...there are some ideas out there on ways to help offset (not eliminate) some of the financial damage caused by this change. I promise I'll be working to bring those to the forefront...
#6
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Albie,
I like you, not sure why (not neg or pos) but I like you. You seem to be a straight shooter.
Thanks for the post, but heres my beef. Make it easy for us. Provide us a link, most of us just delete those stupid alpa emails because they never address the info we want. OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE IF ALPA HAD COMMUNICATED ANYTHING WITH THIS PILOT GROUP ABOUT THE STANDING BID, CANCELATIONS, AGE 60 AND INFO WE WANTED THIS PAST WEEK. But no they send out a generic,,,,,"well, everything seems to be within contractual definitions" ....disgusting. AGAIN ALPA WHERE ARE YOU WHEN WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ?????????????
So Albie, as you take your new position, heres my too (AerisArmis, please correct) cents.
Make it easy for us, I'm not as smart as people like AerisArmis, I'm a dumb pilot.
A) Provide us a link to vote.
B) Then, provide us a link to reset our VIN. (I don't have mine and don't know how to get a new one.)
C) How bout a link to reset the pin?
Albie, I really do like you and hope to meet you once you decide that tin can your flying isn't worth the trouble...but I just wanted to give you a couple suggestions for when you actually take office.
I'll get back to all my haters with replies once I have some time....Some of us actually had to work this week.
My personal spell and grammer checker AerisArmis will be editing this post soon...so standby....
I like you, not sure why (not neg or pos) but I like you. You seem to be a straight shooter.
Thanks for the post, but heres my beef. Make it easy for us. Provide us a link, most of us just delete those stupid alpa emails because they never address the info we want. OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE IF ALPA HAD COMMUNICATED ANYTHING WITH THIS PILOT GROUP ABOUT THE STANDING BID, CANCELATIONS, AGE 60 AND INFO WE WANTED THIS PAST WEEK. But no they send out a generic,,,,,"well, everything seems to be within contractual definitions" ....disgusting. AGAIN ALPA WHERE ARE YOU WHEN WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ?????????????
So Albie, as you take your new position, heres my too (AerisArmis, please correct) cents.
Make it easy for us, I'm not as smart as people like AerisArmis, I'm a dumb pilot.
A) Provide us a link to vote.
B) Then, provide us a link to reset our VIN. (I don't have mine and don't know how to get a new one.)
C) How bout a link to reset the pin?
Albie, I really do like you and hope to meet you once you decide that tin can your flying isn't worth the trouble...but I just wanted to give you a couple suggestions for when you actually take office.
I'll get back to all my haters with replies once I have some time....Some of us actually had to work this week.
My personal spell and grammer checker AerisArmis will be editing this post soon...so standby....
#7
Good points Eggman. I'll try....
To vote:
https://www.ballotpoint.com/alpa/
To change your password, etc:
STEPS TO ACTIVATE YOUR VOTER CREDENTIALS
After you have been issued a replacement activation code by your Election Administrator, you must carry out the following steps to gain access to your BallotPoint voting account. You will not be able to vote in any of your union’s elections until you do so.
These steps must be performed soon after you are issued the replacement activation code. Replacement activation codes are valid for a very limited time. If not used within that period, you will need to request another replacement code from your Adminis*trator.
Call either (866)511-3366 or (866)972-8043, toll-free, to activate your voting account. NOTE: These numbers are different than the ones used to activate an account using the Activation Code received through the US Mail.
If you cannot reach either of the toll-free numbers listed above (the toll-frees are accessible from the United States, Canada, and a few other other areas only), then try the direct (tolled) numbers, (971)327-5444 and (503)972-8042. NOTE: These numbers are different than the ones used to activate an account using the Activation Code received through the US Mail.
When prompted, enter the replacement activation code provided to you by your Election Administrator.
Your assigned Voter Identification Number (VIN) will be spoken to you. Write this VIN down. It’s a random number, and trying to just remember it from one BallotPoint election to the next will be difficult.
When prompted, use the phone keypad to enter a 4- to 8-digit Personal Identification Number (PIN) of your own choosing. Write this PIN down.
Save the VIN and PIN in a safe and accessible place. This may be in your wallet, or anywhere else that you can easily get to whenever you need to vote in one of your union’s elections. Alternatively, save your VIN and PIN electronically (cell phone, PDA, computer), if that’s more convenient for you, and you are comfortable about the security of the location.
To vote:
https://www.ballotpoint.com/alpa/
To change your password, etc:
STEPS TO ACTIVATE YOUR VOTER CREDENTIALS
After you have been issued a replacement activation code by your Election Administrator, you must carry out the following steps to gain access to your BallotPoint voting account. You will not be able to vote in any of your union’s elections until you do so.
These steps must be performed soon after you are issued the replacement activation code. Replacement activation codes are valid for a very limited time. If not used within that period, you will need to request another replacement code from your Adminis*trator.
Call either (866)511-3366 or (866)972-8043, toll-free, to activate your voting account. NOTE: These numbers are different than the ones used to activate an account using the Activation Code received through the US Mail.
If you cannot reach either of the toll-free numbers listed above (the toll-frees are accessible from the United States, Canada, and a few other other areas only), then try the direct (tolled) numbers, (971)327-5444 and (503)972-8042. NOTE: These numbers are different than the ones used to activate an account using the Activation Code received through the US Mail.
When prompted, enter the replacement activation code provided to you by your Election Administrator.
Your assigned Voter Identification Number (VIN) will be spoken to you. Write this VIN down. It’s a random number, and trying to just remember it from one BallotPoint election to the next will be difficult.
When prompted, use the phone keypad to enter a 4- to 8-digit Personal Identification Number (PIN) of your own choosing. Write this PIN down.
Save the VIN and PIN in a safe and accessible place. This may be in your wallet, or anywhere else that you can easily get to whenever you need to vote in one of your union’s elections. Alternatively, save your VIN and PIN electronically (cell phone, PDA, computer), if that’s more convenient for you, and you are comfortable about the security of the location.
#8
Good points Eggman. I'll try....
To vote:
https://www.ballotpoint.com/alpa/
To change your password, etc:
STEPS TO ACTIVATE YOUR VOTER CREDENTIALS
After you have been issued a replacement activation code by your Election Administrator, you must carry out the following steps to gain access to your BallotPoint voting account. You will not be able to vote in any of your union’s elections until you do so.
These steps must be performed soon after you are issued the replacement activation code. Replacement activation codes are valid for a very limited time. If not used within that period, you will need to request another replacement code from your Adminis*trator.
Call either (866)511-3366 or (866)972-8043, toll-free, to activate your voting account. NOTE: These numbers are different than the ones used to activate an account using the Activation Code received through the US Mail.
If you cannot reach either of the toll-free numbers listed above (the toll-frees are accessible from the United States, Canada, and a few other other areas only), then try the direct (tolled) numbers, (971)327-5444 and (503)972-8042. NOTE: These numbers are different than the ones used to activate an account using the Activation Code received through the US Mail.
When prompted, enter the replacement activation code provided to you by your Election Administrator.
Your assigned Voter Identification Number (VIN) will be spoken to you. Write this VIN down. It’s a random number, and trying to just remember it from one BallotPoint election to the next will be difficult.
When prompted, use the phone keypad to enter a 4- to 8-digit Personal Identification Number (PIN) of your own choosing. Write this PIN down.
Save the VIN and PIN in a safe and accessible place. This may be in your wallet, or anywhere else that you can easily get to whenever you need to vote in one of your union’s elections. Alternatively, save your VIN and PIN electronically (cell phone, PDA, computer), if that’s more convenient for you, and you are comfortable about the security of the location.
To vote:
https://www.ballotpoint.com/alpa/
To change your password, etc:
STEPS TO ACTIVATE YOUR VOTER CREDENTIALS
After you have been issued a replacement activation code by your Election Administrator, you must carry out the following steps to gain access to your BallotPoint voting account. You will not be able to vote in any of your union’s elections until you do so.
These steps must be performed soon after you are issued the replacement activation code. Replacement activation codes are valid for a very limited time. If not used within that period, you will need to request another replacement code from your Adminis*trator.
Call either (866)511-3366 or (866)972-8043, toll-free, to activate your voting account. NOTE: These numbers are different than the ones used to activate an account using the Activation Code received through the US Mail.
If you cannot reach either of the toll-free numbers listed above (the toll-frees are accessible from the United States, Canada, and a few other other areas only), then try the direct (tolled) numbers, (971)327-5444 and (503)972-8042. NOTE: These numbers are different than the ones used to activate an account using the Activation Code received through the US Mail.
When prompted, enter the replacement activation code provided to you by your Election Administrator.
Your assigned Voter Identification Number (VIN) will be spoken to you. Write this VIN down. It’s a random number, and trying to just remember it from one BallotPoint election to the next will be difficult.
When prompted, use the phone keypad to enter a 4- to 8-digit Personal Identification Number (PIN) of your own choosing. Write this PIN down.
Save the VIN and PIN in a safe and accessible place. This may be in your wallet, or anywhere else that you can easily get to whenever you need to vote in one of your union’s elections. Alternatively, save your VIN and PIN electronically (cell phone, PDA, computer), if that’s more convenient for you, and you are comfortable about the security of the location.

Thanks for the info Albie!
#9

That stupid e-mail titled "Special Message Line" you received today has a link that takes you to Ballot Point to vote. It's the same link that Albie provided above, and it's on the ALPA website. (OR, you can just click on the spoon.
)The stupid e-mail also has a plea to help a seriously ill retired pilot by donating blood -- you really ought to read it.
That screen will look something like this:
If you have lost your voting credentials or think your voting credentials have been compromised, please click here to request a replacement activation code. After you have been issued a replacement activation code, you must reactivate your ballotpoint voting account within 24 hours. If you do not reactivate the account in 24 hours, a new code will be needed.
Lost or Never Received
Compromised
Click here to request a new authorization code.
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STEPS TO ACTIVATE YOUR VOTER CREDENTIALS
After you have been issued a replacement activation code by your Election Administrator, you must carry out the following steps to gain access to your BallotPoint voting account. You will not be able to vote in any of your union’s elections until you do so.
These steps must be performed soon after you are issued the replacement activation code. Replacement activation codes are valid for a very limited time. If not used within that period, you will need to request another replacement code from your Administrator.
- Call either (866)511-3366 or (866)972-8043, toll-free, to activate your voting account. NOTE: These numbers are different than the ones used to activate an account using the Activation Code received through the US Mail.
- If you cannot reach either of the toll-free numbers listed above (the toll-frees are accessible from the United States, Canada, and a few other other areas only), then try the direct (tolled) numbers, (971)327-5444 and (503)972-8042. NOTE: These numbers are different than the ones used to activate an account using the Activation Code received through the US Mail.
- When prompted, enter the replacement activation code provided to you by your Election Administrator.
- Your assigned Voter Identification Number (VIN) will be spoken to you. Write this VIN down. It’s a random number, and trying to just remember it from one BallotPoint election to the next will be difficult.
- When prompted, use the phone keypad to enter a 4- to 8-digit Personal Identification Number (PIN) of your own choosing. Write this PIN down.
- Save the VIN and PIN in a safe and accessible place. This may be in your wallet, or anywhere else that you can easily get to whenever you need to vote in one of your union’s elections. Alternatively, save your VIN and PIN electronically (cell phone, PDA, computer), if that’s more convenient for you, and you are comfortable about the security of the location.
The entire process should take no more than 4 minutes. The longest part is waiting for the recording to complete before you can use your Activation Code to receive your VIN and set your PIN (i.e., waiting for the prompt in Step 3).
I wouldn't mind if you voted for me for Council Chairman.

(Let me know if you need help with your ALPA Member Number and Password.)
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Last edited by TonyC; 01-04-2008 at 04:51 PM. Reason: The spoon is clickable now!
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Easy Tony,
Its not often we hear from you, although we'd like to more often.
My post was a response to a post Albie made where there (Aeris please correct) was no link and I was only offering a suggestion which he took well.
FYI -
When I did click the link and didn't know my pin, I clicked "troubles logging in", which left me empty and didn't provide a place to reset my pin.
Maybe if Alpa really cared about the junior (capts. and f/os) they would have provided this in their "special message line".
My point to Albie was, as a newly elected official, make it easy for us on this board. As you would and make it a mockery.... spoon feed us.
Just a point...
you did provide a reactivation link which I find useful, as maybe another member of this board would.
DISCLAIMER:
It was nice to get an email about a "retired" captain, it seems thats all ALPA cares about these days.
I'm however very sympathetic to anyone that needs blood especially one that I might now.
-Not spell checked by AerisArmis
Its not often we hear from you, although we'd like to more often.
My post was a response to a post Albie made where there (Aeris please correct) was no link and I was only offering a suggestion which he took well.
FYI -
When I did click the link and didn't know my pin, I clicked "troubles logging in", which left me empty and didn't provide a place to reset my pin.
Maybe if Alpa really cared about the junior (capts. and f/os) they would have provided this in their "special message line".
My point to Albie was, as a newly elected official, make it easy for us on this board. As you would and make it a mockery.... spoon feed us.
Just a point...
you did provide a reactivation link which I find useful, as maybe another member of this board would.
DISCLAIMER:
It was nice to get an email about a "retired" captain, it seems thats all ALPA cares about these days.
I'm however very sympathetic to anyone that needs blood especially one that I might now.
-Not spell checked by AerisArmis
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