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Old 02-11-2008, 08:12 AM
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Looking at the MEM 11 lines... Are we disputing the CDG-MAN-MEM again? We elected to not dispute the sequence for Feb. Why the change of heart?
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:58 AM
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A quick addendum to my previous post: if the company screws up and puts a dispute on a secondary line - if you elect sub, they can then give you the same dispute in SUB So you lose 25% of the pay vs. draft. Go figure.
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Secondary Line holders, scrutinize your lines carefully when awarded. Make sure you have not been assigned a DP. If you have you have 3 options according to the CBA. 1. Fly it at draft 2. Decline it for substitution 3. Drop it into M/U bank. [/I][/B]If you elect sub, you probably won't fly given the dearth of non-DP trips available (so you get paid w/o flying).
This happened to a guy in our crashpad... so they don't care how they get the trips assigned... protect yourself.
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Originally Posted by PastV1 View Post
Looking at the MEM 11 lines... Are we disputing the CDG-MAN-MEM again? We elected to not dispute the sequence for Feb. Why the change of heart?
I think you are referring to CDG-STN-MEM ?

CDG-MAN-MEM was disputed last fall and was split up until the MAR08 bid month, it looks like all the pairings with CDG-MAN-MEM are actually APR trips (all carryover).
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT View Post
A quick addendum to my previous post: if the company screws up and puts a dispute on a secondary line - if you elect sub, they can then give you the same dispute in SUB So you lose 25% of the pay vs. draft. Go figure.
Unless they are offered as RAT, you fly them at 100%, so you lose 50%. Of course you could wait until your availability period which starts 4 hours prior to the original show time to accept or reject that sub trip and then be eligible for OTP. I say don't fly them at draft or in sub. The more difficult we make it for scheduling to assign these trips, the better chance we have of fixing them. People just need to stop being so short sighted.
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 2cylinderdriver View Post
I think you are referring to CDG-STN-MEM ?

CDG-MAN-MEM was disputed last fall and was split up until the MAR08 bid month, it looks like all the pairings with CDG-MAN-MEM are actually APR trips (all carryover).
Maybe all carryover but still MAR trips. Thought we had that sequence worked out but I guess not...
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Originally Posted by pinseeker View Post
Unless they are offered as RAT, you fly them at 100%, so you lose 50%. Of course you could wait until your availability period which starts 4 hours prior to the original show time to accept or reject that sub trip and then be eligible for OTP. I say don't fly them at draft or in sub. The more difficult we make it for scheduling to assign these trips, the better chance we have of fixing them. People just need to stop being so short sighted.
And if you do fly them on RESERVE, and happen to be tired, call in Fatigued!!! Make sure you email the SIG on the whats and whens so they can use it for our advantage.
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT View Post
There are no good excuses for "picking one up" in any other pay category.
If one of these pairings has a revision number on it can we assume that it is now not disputed? When are the dp's updated to reflect revisions that eliminate the reason for it being a dp?
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RJ puke/FedEx wannabe here. Gotta ask the dumb question: What is a Disputed Pairing? Are they pairings that were constructed without abiding by the criteria set forth in the CBA? Just curious guys.
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Old 02-11-2008, 03:45 PM
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No they comply with the CBA but are onerous or maybe odorous. Generally they have two high risk approaches after a long night. Or a scheduled short turn that is unrealistic (35 min in BOS). We have a commitee that identfies them and keeps them out of the bid pack. they can only be flown by request or reserve assignment. Requesting one make the commitee look bad.
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