More 747 and MD-11s for UPS
02-14-2006, 03:15 PM
#11
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Didnt mean to hijack the thread. Lil J, first of all, love the JT avatar. I guess they didnt hate me. Is there any possibility the DC-8 emergency could have delayed or pulled attention away from interview approvals?
Go Bucks.
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Go Bucks.
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02-14-2006, 03:18 PM
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I got a pool letter from HR. I updated my flight time every 2 weeks after that. Thought it would help to bug them. It didn't hurt!
Maybe with these new airplanes I won't have to be displaced to the 727. That would be excellent. Thanks for the info FC.
Maybe with these new airplanes I won't have to be displaced to the 727. That would be excellent. Thanks for the info FC.
02-14-2006, 04:22 PM
#13
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I waited 4 weeks, 3 days (not that I was counting) 
for the pool letter to come, then waited another 2+ months for the med call, then another 1+ month until class date. Just flying below the radar for another "enter your number here" months until probation is done... 
for the pool letter to come, then waited another 2+ months for the med call, then another 1+ month until class date. Just flying below the radar for another "enter your number here" months until probation is done...
02-14-2006, 04:59 PM
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40 of 50 727 FE's, 90 of 110 DC-8 FE's and all 747 FEs are over 60. Many of them will retire when the contract gets signed, but some of the old geezers are talking about beng furloughed due to lack of seats when more captains hit 60.
02-14-2006, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OOTSK
...Maybe with these new airplanes I won't have to be displaced to the 727. That would be excellent...
Are we so overstaffed that there's no room to move a handful of 757 FO's back a few numbers in their seat? Aren't we just going to hire more 757 FO's in a month or two anyway?
This makes no sense to me. But I'm not that smart.
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02-14-2006, 07:32 PM
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BTW, I say "old geezers" with the highest degree of respect intended. It is unfortunate that those who want to retire are not able to under the current retirement. A career UPS truck driver gets 100% more in retirement than a 30year UPS pilot (which there aren't any).
02-15-2006, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by EDPM
I heard the 747 displacements are causing 757 new hires to be displaced to the 727??? What's up with that?
Are we so overstaffed that there's no room to move a handful of 757 Fo's back a few numbers in their seat? Aren't we just going to hire more 757 FO's in a month or two anyway?
This makes no sense to me. But I'm not that smart.
EDPM
Are we so overstaffed that there's no room to move a handful of 757 Fo's back a few numbers in their seat? Aren't we just going to hire more 757 FO's in a month or two anyway?
This makes no sense to me. But I'm not that smart.
EDPM
02-15-2006, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
BTW, I say "old geezers" with the highest degree of respect intended. It is unfortunate that those who want to retire are not able to under the current retirement. A career UPS truck driver gets 100% more in retirement than a 30year UPS pilot (which there aren't any).
Also, I don't think they could get away with furloughing the over 60 FE's before first furloughing any new hire FE's. I would think that would be a big no no.
02-15-2006, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
40 of 50 727 FE's, 90 of 110 DC-8 FE's and all 747 FEs are over 60. Many of them will retire when the contract gets signed, but some of the old geezers are talking about beng furloughed due to lack of seats when more captains hit 60.
02-15-2006, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Packer Backer
It sounds to me as more people turn 60 and bid to the remaining FE seats, that in a few months every FE at UPS will be over 60. What is going to happen when the contract is signed, they all take their retro, and put in 2 weeks notice? It sounds to me that UPS management is being very short sighted by not settling your contract ASAP. They would be better off pay protecting those guys to sit at home or offering them an early retirement. But then again, when does management ever do anything that makes sense.
Secondly, I doubt UPS is that short sighted. I'm just guessing, but it's likely the new contract will have some kind of fence or incentive language to prevent or preclude all of the over-60 guys from leaving at once.
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