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Old 08-13-2019, 07:45 PM   #261  
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When I said the Aloha 767, I meant the one that's painted in the Aloha Air Cargo livery. Technically, it's not a wet lease. It's a dry lease with a separate, temporary, CMI agreement with ATI until such time as NAC gets its ETOPS certification. However, I appreciate your clarification that the aircraft is on the NAC certificate rather than the Aloha one.
Well our CEO says it is a wet lease, so I defer to him
it is a NAC 767, because Aloha does not have any 767s on their certificate and never will. the N-number is listed in the NAC op-specs.
As I said before, Aloha Air Cargo is a brand name.
The other 767s are painted one in NAC livery and one in StratAir livery. StratAir is not even an airline, they are just a freight forwarding company. But Salt Chuk owns them too.
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[QUOTE=flyjustinfly;2867941]Are there any 767 pilots on here that can give a summary of the training with NAC?[/QUOTE

-10 days of indoc
-Go to Boeing in MIA and take their 767 initial coarse ( about 6 weeks)
- do OE in MIA , min of 25 hrs
-released to the line
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Well our CEO says it is a wet lease, so I defer to him
it is a NAC 767, because Aloha does not have any 767s on their certificate and never will. the N-number is listed in the NAC op-specs.
As I said before, Aloha Air Cargo is a brand name.
The other 767s are painted one in NAC livery and one in StratAir livery. StratAir is not even an airline, they are just a freight forwarding company. But Salt Chuk owns them too.
Yeah. It's semantics. What it is is a dry lease to NAC with a temporary CMI contract, which for most people's purposes means that currently it is a "wet lease". And it's simpler to explain that way. But we all also know that when NAC gets ETOPS, the airframe will not be flown by ATI but rather by NAC. ATSG/CAM has a program they call "wet to dry", where they'll operate the aircraft until you are ready to do so. That's what this is.

Everything else you say is correct. The StratAir plane is a flying billboard for StratAir, and is leased by and operated by NAC.
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Old 09-10-2019, 12:03 AM   #264  
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Does anyone have any information on the next 767 Miami class dates? I have applied but haven't heard anything and wondering when the next class date is scheduled.
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Old 09-10-2019, 11:47 PM   #265  
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Oct. 1st i think....
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Old 09-11-2019, 12:57 PM   #266  
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Oct. 1st i think....
there is no new hire class for the 767 scheduled in Oct.

The 767 training was stopped for a short period to take care of some problems with the training program.

Pilots that are currently waiting for 767 training will start up again in Oct, maybe that is what you heard.
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So the feds shut down the 767 training program?
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So the feds shut down the 767 training program?
no Feds didn't shut down anything.

we just stopped the initial 767 training coarse after an internal audit found inconsistency with the Boeing training and our manuals.
re-current training never stopped.
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Ok got it. You guys fixed it before the feds shut it down .
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Ok got it. You guys fixed it before the feds shut it down .


...I mean...yeah? Airlines are continually evolving to be compliant.
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