Originally Posted by tikicarver

here are the facts, no rumors, yes I work at NAC/AAC

Northern Air Cargo and Aloha Air Cargo are one pilot group. The parent Company has 2 certificates, for business reasons they have decided to keep both, at least for now. Maybe they merger the two groups in the future but doesn't really matter much because we have one Contract and one seniority list.
What does matter is what Company you get hired at, because currently each is doing their own hiring and you will have a two year seat lock before you can bid off the aircraft you are on. The 767 is on the NAC certificate, so if you want to fly the 767 you need to apply at NAC. If you want to fly the 737 and be based in HNL you need to apply at Aloha. If you want to fly the 737 in ANC, apply at NAC.
Both companies have vacancies, Aloha just opened the window for new apps, NAC is still working their pile of existing ones. But that might change soon. There are a few vacancies to fill in 737ANC.
There are also some 767 vacancies , but they are still pulling from the pile of resumes they have.

Both companies have 737 flying in the Lower 48.
Aloha has a 2 year contract for the USPS flying ONT-GSO
NAC has a 2 year contract for USPS flying SLC-EWR

If you get hired for the 737 for either company you will likely be only able to hold one of those lines because they are not popular with the local pilots. For ANC those lines go to the junior pilots. For HNL the junior CAs get them and they are not going junior for FOs, seems like some FOs in HNL like them.
These lines are 17 day trips out of your base. So day 1 is DH, then 15 days of a mix of flight days and reserve days, and DH back to domicile. That is why they are not popular, you are gone 17 days. and it is possible to get back to back trips, but you could also get back to back days off and have 26 days off in a row.

Aloha just opened their window. Currently the NAC window is closed, but that might change early next year.

We have 8, 737-300s, rumor is a 9th coming. 2 flying the lower 48 routes, 3 in HNL , 2 in ANC , 1 spare.
Currently have 4, 767-300s. Two based in MIA, one in HNL and one being delivered in Feb.

The 767s in MIA fly to South America, SJU, KIN and do charters when they come up.
The 767 in HNL flys to LAX and is currently being flown by ATI crews because NAC does not have ETOPS certification.
The 4th 767 will be based in HNL and fly SEA-LAX. (ATI already flying the route for us )

We are close to getting ETOPS, would have been done months ago but the FAA has refused to travel so makes things difficult to get training and certifications done. Apparently they have promised to support us in Jan/Feb.

Current classes and future classes on 767 are all HNL based crews to staff the second 767.

The flying is scheduled routes. just look on FlightAware or Flightradar24 for N379CX, or N351CM or N399CM to see what we fly. The trips are almost all single day trips. In ANC and HNL that is 100%. Out of MIA we were doing a few two day trips, but with covid we turned them all into 1 day trips. So the long trips to SA are all augmented crews.
HNL 737 has day and night trip pairings, but the day stuff goes senior. In ANC it is a mix.
The lower 48 routes, you fly one direction, RON and then back the other way. with days off and reserve days mixed in to rotate the crews that fly on the 17 day trip.

upgrade is about 2 years on 767, but that depends on a lot of things. Company says they want to grow, but doesn't all management always say that?? ANC the upgrade will be a long time. HNL767 and 737 upgrade time will depend on how may senior pilots decide to switch to the 767 after we get ETOPS and they can fly out of HNL. MIA767 upgrade will depend on if they ad another 767 to the base.

can you commute to HNL from east coast, well yes, but I would be thinking why would you? That will get old real fast.

schedules are line bidding, with 13 days off a month.
ANC and HNL 737 lines usually have 4 days of flying and then 3 days off and repeat.
767 lines vary,
paid 1.5x for any trips picked up on days off
min guarantee is 65pch,

any other questions ask and I will try to answer

Originally Posted by C17B74

Is that the 5th 767 sweeeet? Up to 15 aircraft and flying some some pretty nice runs based on earlier information. Keep going, keep growing, kill it while we all can, that’s good news!

Originally Posted by wjcandee

That's the 4th one that was described above as coming in February. It's the one that is expected to go to Aloha. It is currently in SBD for something. Usually, this lessor paints its planes at Dean Baldwin in ROW, GYR or GUS, or at Landlocked in CWF. So probably not in SBD for paint, but one never knows. There is a paint contractor at SBD. The aircraft is already on the Northern certificate, so they can in theory do what they want with it. I guess we'll see what happens to it in a couple of days. Presumably, an aircraft is needed to certify ETOPS, so maybe that's the plan right now for it, before painting. N321CM is the tail number.

Originally Posted by tikicarver

-that 767 is the 4th one.
it is being painted in SBA, might not have time to finish and only be white for awhile....

-it is not going to Aloha certificate, Aloha does not have 767 certification and never will
only 737s on the Aloha certificate.

-there are no other 767s bought at this time.

- yes 4th 767 airplane will be flown on the ETOPS routes out of HNL
most likely starting in May if the FAA does not change their mind again and change the schedule

- just got a 9th 737, right now planning as a spare for operational reliability

both Aloha and NAC having new hire classes for the 737
first 4 new hires started this week at Aloha

Originally Posted by nitefr8dog

"bought".....I think they are leased from CAM