FDX - MEC Negotiating Chairman
10-18-2008, 02:48 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by iarapilot
It might be kinda like taking a lawyer, training him on the MD, then IOE and a few months on the line, then making him a Captain.
I do agree with Busboy though, that it takes more than just a good negotiator, it takes the crew force backing up the negotiator. But no matter how much support an amateur gets, he's still an amateur.
10-19-2008, 07:02 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by JohnnyViper
Sounds like a good time to start looking into the professional negotiators again. If the mustached crew think it's so important to have a pilot's input at the table, have one sitting next to the guys that know what they are doing. It makes me giggle every time I think that we think a pilot can outwit the FedEx lawyers.
10-19-2008, 07:07 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by Micro
I've been saying this for years. I've brought it up at hub meetings and LEC meetings. DW keeps telling me (and us) that we have the best "professional" negotiators available in our Fedex union lawyers. I personally don't think he's even the slightest bit right. And I agree with Busboy. We won't be able to accomplish anything unless we have the TOTAL backing of the crew-force. However, I think it's time for thinking out of the box and trying new strategies.
10-20-2008, 10:53 AM
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Just an update . Fred did NOT resign, he was FIRED by Webb because he was becoming to assertive with the company and Dave didn't like it. Now we are in limbo again. Webb want's someone on that committee to be warm and fuzzy and not make waves. Whatever the company wants the company gets. Screw the crewforce. Webb was also behind the age 65 deal. He didn't care what you all wanted, it was what HE wanted. I think it's time for DW to get out of the union business and let someone do the job the way it's supposed to be done.
And don't ask me how I know about Eissler, I just know! DW has to go.
And don't ask me how I know about Eissler, I just know! DW has to go.
10-20-2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by John Mobilian
Just an update . Fred did NOT resign, he was FIRED by Webb because he was becoming to assertive with the company and Dave didn't like it. Now we are in limbo again. Webb want's someone on that committee to be warm and fuzzy and not make waves. Whatever the company wants the company gets. Screw the crewforce. Webb was also behind the age 65 deal. He didn't care what you all wanted, it was what HE wanted. I think it's time for DW to get out of the union business and let someone do the job the way it's supposed to be done.
And don't ask me how I know about Eissler, I just know! DW has to go.
And don't ask me how I know about Eissler, I just know! DW has to go.
BTW, how did you come up with that screen name?
10-20-2008, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by John Mobilian
Just an update . Fred did NOT resign, he was FIRED by Webb because he was becoming to assertive with the company and Dave didn't like it. Now we are in limbo again. Webb want's someone on that committee to be warm and fuzzy and not make waves. Whatever the company wants the company gets. Screw the crewforce. Webb was also behind the age 65 deal. He didn't care what you all wanted, it was what HE wanted. I think it's time for DW to get out of the union business and let someone do the job the way it's supposed to be done.
And don't ask me how I know about Eissler, I just know! DW has to go.
And don't ask me how I know about Eissler, I just know! DW has to go.
10-20-2008, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
I think Fred worked for the MEC, not the other way around. Fred is inclined to be assertive. It has not always worked out for others around him.
10-20-2008, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AerisArmis
You mean the 13-zip MEC? The one that NEVER votes against Der Fuhrer? BTW, assertive is a good thing for the NC chairman me thinks.
10-20-2008, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
Der Fuhrer? I thought that was Fred's job.
10-20-2008, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by John Mobilian
Just an update . Fred did NOT resign, he was FIRED by Webb because he was becoming to assertive with the company and Dave didn't like it. Now we are in limbo again. Webb want's someone on that committee to be warm and fuzzy and not make waves. Whatever the company wants the company gets. Screw the crewforce. Webb was also behind the age 65 deal. He didn't care what you all wanted, it was what HE wanted. I think it's time for DW to get out of the union business and let someone do the job the way it's supposed to be done.
And don't ask me how I know about Eissler, I just know! DW has to go.
And don't ask me how I know about Eissler, I just know! DW has to go.
What is the real story? If anyone is talking to Fred, could you ask him to put out his version of what happened. Time for some unvarnished truth rather than the politically correct drivel that is the MEC's SOP.
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