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Old 04-13-2006, 11:35 AM   #31  
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I heard that some doing the negotiations want to sacrifice scheduling rules for retirement???? Screw that!
Really? Say it ain't so. This isn't 1997. People will read this contract.
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I heard that some doing the negotiations want to sacrifice scheduling rules for retirement???? Screw that!
How about this.... I was advocating raising the first year pay. It is a negotiated element. Period. Not to mention that I wouldn't feel very loyal to a union that let me twist in the wind, financially, the first year. It simply is the right thing to do. Anyway, right from TN's lips, he wants to raise the retirement benefit of those who have already retired. Not the over 60 folks working in the back seat, but people who retired and are no longer on the payrol(and no longer paying union dues). I realize they definitely got a crappy A plan ,BUT, what are you willing to give up to give these non-dues paying guys a better quality of life? I'd be willing to consider it, but it would be pretty freakin' low on my wishlist.

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PS: Why does it label me as a "New Hire" Under what menu can I change that? TIA

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Old 04-14-2006, 02:57 AM   #33  
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PS: Why does it label me as a "New Hire" Under what menu can I change that? TIA
It is based on your number of posts. You'll be a lineholder when you get to 25 posts. You'll get weekends off when you get to 100 posts.
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How about this.... I was advocating raising the first year pay. It is a negotiated element. Period. Not to mention that I wouldn't feel very loyal to a union that let me twist in the wind, financially, the first year. It simply is the right thing to do. Anyway, right from TN's lips, he wants to raise the retirement benefit of those who have already retired. Not the over 60 folks working in the back seat, but people who retired and are no longer on the payrol(and no longer paying union dues). I realize they definitely got a crappy A plan ,BUT, what are you willing to give up to give these non-dues paying guys a better quality of life? I'd be willing to consider it, but it would be pretty freakin' low on my wishlist.

For your consideration...


PS: Why does it label me as a "New Hire" Under what menu can I change that? TIA

Just to clear up "who you are", why don't you tell us how long you have been here.

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Just to clear up "who you are", why don't you tell us how long you have been here.

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Where? In the seat I'm sitting in? 3 mins. On this forum? one day. At UPS 12 years. How 'bout answering the question, please.
 
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It is based on your number of posts. You'll be a lineholder when you get to 25 posts. You'll get weekends off when you get to 100 posts.

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Un-Freaking-Believable!!!!!! From a reliable source I have learned that the IPA EB is negotiating to increase the A-plan. That seems to be expected. But they are also trying to get the pensions for the guys who have already retired increased!!!! Many IPAers are supporting it by saying "We should expect nothing less than both." (referring to pay raised for line pilots and retired folks)

Is there anyone on here that supports this? How can you negotiate better pensions for already retired folks over correcting the FO slope!!! UPS FOs are making 43,000 a year LESS than their FedEx counterparts and our EB is discussing retiree pay. What a crock.
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Un-Freaking-Believable!!!!!! From a reliable source I have learned that the IPA EB is negotiating to increase the A-plan. That seems to be expected. But they are also trying to get the pensions for the guys who have already retired increased!!!! Many IPAers are supporting it by saying "We should expect nothing less than both." (referring to pay raised for line pilots and retired folks)

Is there anyone on here that supports this? How can you negotiate better pensions for already retired folks over correcting the FO slope!!! UPS FOs are making 43,000 a year LESS than their FedEx counterparts and our EB is discussing retiree pay. What a crock.

I tried to warn you about staying. You should have taken that class date at FredEX. Oh well you can always cry over spilled milk.

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Anyone who has watched the last decade unfold and still believes in A plans is a fool. This is not just in the airlines, but in other industries as well-Ford and GM may ring a bell. Your choice is to accept an unsecured promise to pay in the future or money in your account now, this shouldn't even be a question for anyone here.
If the EB and UPS can try to negotiate A plan payments up, isn't it also likely they may try to negotiate them down at some point in the future?
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I tried to warn you about staying. You should have taken that class date at FredEX. Oh well you can always cry over spilled milk.

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CW,

Perhaps you should fill out a Fredex application, man your attitude sucks.
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