WingOffLight

Looks like ATI is getting N748AX there might be some hiring. The aircraft just showed up on ATI's paperwork. The N number is being changed now. I would think this would be an ABX scope violation. I guess there are a few more coming, training is already ramped up.

Registered Owner
767-232
N N748AX SN 22225
Name REGISTRATION PENDING
Street 7100 TPC DRIVE STE 100
City ORLANDO
State FLORIDA
Zip Code 32822
County ORANGE
Country UNITED STATES

nitecat

Red Baron and ULTRADRVR and any other of this species. Notice the language
of ABX AMJT press release. ABX AIR is now being called the no.1 SOURCE of
767 aircraft in the world instead of the no.1 operator of the same. The union hotline message was also somewhat confusing on this issue. Remember those
767-300 ER's DHL ordered? Appears they may going to Polar as this aircraft has been added to their certificate. Apparently the no. 1 source of 767's in the
world was never even in the running. ABX pilots could become extinct soon.
Enough of the cheery talk for now, I have big day feeding the woodpeckers
tomorrow.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Which would explain why a while back I heard DHL might stay with one of it's current operators (Polar?) versus getting a smaller deal with UPS...

Skymaster

In order to "add an aircraft" to a Part 121 certificate, you have to have either ownership or exclusive lease of at least one of the type you are adding (see FAR 121 and FAR 119).

So if Polar has "added" the B767 to their certificate what is the registration number?

nitecat

Skymaster, you are correct, I may have misquoted my source and have
the facts wrong. Some Polar pilots reported seeing 767 listed on some
type of paperwork filed in South America. This may have been an application for landing slots or something. I will check with my source
again and and get back with you. Thnx. Nitecat.

clipperskip

This is indeed an ABX 767-200F. It is going to ATI in exchange for an ETOPS 767-200F. This was agreed to by the pilot's union. The ETOPS a/c ABX is getting is a former American bird if I am not mistaken.

nitefr8dog

Abx traded N748AX to Cam for a Etops aircraft. I think N748AX will then go to ATI. (I think that was how it all played out) Either way it was a 1 for 1 trade.

jetgo166

Guys,

I have personally fought Amerijet as the union steward, union negotiator, union newletter committee, and union grievance committee - all on my own for two of the four years after voting for IBT representation. Amerijet pilots are represented by Local 769 in Orlando Florida, which also has an office in Miami. The business agent for the pilot group was informed immediately of the business deal and passed word of it to the relevant people at IBT. We have been trying to get our first contract from AJT for the past four and a half years. We have been in mediation since 2005. The union was voted into AJT in 2004, with almost a 90% affirmative vote.
In the years since, AJT has been on a vicious campaign to scuttle all efforts to get a FIRST contract. The top four "troublemakers" were systematically harassed, degraded, and forced into countless "counselling sessions" with management. Sometimes the were suspended or had wages taken out of their paycheck. AJT knew exactly where to draw the line for suspensions, since their crew handbook was considered status quo. It was all orchestrated by Fisher Phillips, an anti-union firm out of Atlanta. There was only so much that the union men could take, and being the professional aviators that they were, they had many options to go elsewhere, and took them. The last one to go was myself, and I personally raised the ante with that company. I was slandered, abused, threatened, ripped-off, suspended (with pay since I went over their four day limit because I would not grovel for my job back - idiots). In the midst of this, I personally flyered cars, held meetings, and harangued pilots on the phone. I had a couple of good men on the inside, who passed information as they were considered "company men", and was able to counter some of Amerijet's strategies. I offered my services to any one of the pilots who grieved an issue. In the end, I had enough of their nonsense and moved on to another airline. As soon as I left, Amerijet instituted a decertification campaign, using a couple of their captains (one of whom is still there) and had a bunch of new-hires send enough votes to trigger an election. This election cost the union seven months of negotiations. I went again and had meetings and flyered cars. The IBT won by a 3:1 margin. Now AJT must negotiate and sign a contract. They are boxed in by their own arrogance.
Do I feel for the pilots at AJT in having the ABX 767's? Absolutely not. I was furloughed a few months ago, and am slowly sinking, like many other people in this business. I begged and pleaded with this current group of (mostly captains) pilots to stand up and show some professional conduct, have a backbone for once, and do what is right. Many of them probably really hate me, most of them are afraid. Afraid of what? Losing their jobs? Guys, there are other things to do in life, no one is putting a gun to your head. One day you are going to watch the plane being loaded, and realize the pallet pushers make more than you. If you are afraid to be a professional, then you have no business in aviation. As for the current group of "professionals" at AJT, they have had one check airman fail a PC check, and another decide to make a grass taxiiway in Dominica in the last six months. God help us all.
In the end, Red Baron is absolutely on the money. For some of those guys, I would not acknowledge them, be friendly to them, or even brake if they were crossing the road. Oh, and some of them know this from their time as picket crossers at Eastern Airlines. 'Nuff said, and if anyone disagrees with me about AJT, then they don't know what they are talking about.

jetgo166

ABX, fight this issue through the IBT.

Red Baron

Nitecat,

I couldn't help noticing your gloating about our demise at ABX. All I'm going to say is "You're Next!"

Red