Sec-Treas Message
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Sec-Treas Message
From the message tonight from the Sec-Treas. I will not post it as I think I probably should not but you all have read it......
Let me get this straight.....we as a pilot force will never, ever deliver 25-35% of the packages that we are "contracted" to fly. We have no driven reason to do such....do we? We all have families to feed, mortgages to pay, and other bills. We do our job to the best of our abilities because we are professionals in all we do. We may have gripes, *****es and complaints, but we are payed (and pretty well I may add) to do our job. We do not know, the gum-shoes, brown-shoes or any other military jargon, think is the smartest way for "our" company to make a profit. Sorry guys, the job is to make a profit which we support every day and every night. We do it day in and day out, night in and night out. We are all unhappy about where we are today. We are not happy, nor is the company, in where we find our economy. We have a strong company. We are A STRONG UNION OF PILOTS. Lets keep it that way but look past the blinders and hope we (the Association) and management can find a good way for "ALL OF US" to prosper and succeed.
Dudes and Dudettes....things are only going to get worse, IMHO. I have no answers better than anyone else's.....cooperation seems to be a better defense than not in these horrible economic times.
Fire At Will (Which One's Will????)
Vegas
Let me get this straight.....we as a pilot force will never, ever deliver 25-35% of the packages that we are "contracted" to fly. We have no driven reason to do such....do we? We all have families to feed, mortgages to pay, and other bills. We do our job to the best of our abilities because we are professionals in all we do. We may have gripes, *****es and complaints, but we are payed (and pretty well I may add) to do our job. We do not know, the gum-shoes, brown-shoes or any other military jargon, think is the smartest way for "our" company to make a profit. Sorry guys, the job is to make a profit which we support every day and every night. We do it day in and day out, night in and night out. We are all unhappy about where we are today. We are not happy, nor is the company, in where we find our economy. We have a strong company. We are A STRONG UNION OF PILOTS. Lets keep it that way but look past the blinders and hope we (the Association) and management can find a good way for "ALL OF US" to prosper and succeed.
Dudes and Dudettes....things are only going to get worse, IMHO. I have no answers better than anyone else's.....cooperation seems to be a better defense than not in these horrible economic times.
Fire At Will (Which One's Will????)
Vegas
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To me it read just like the previous messages from our "leaders:" preparing us for their up-comming sell-out...oops I think the PC term these days is "compromise."
Not what I expect for my money's worth.
Unimpressed!
Not what I expect for my money's worth.
Unimpressed!
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Come on, you guys. WR is only getting 98 CH/month these days. We can't really expect new, original stuff working for that kind of pay. Just like industry chieftans, if we want to attract the best and the brightest, we have to pay. I think we ought to include a FedEx ALPA stock option plan as well as a Golden Parachute clause (like going to ALPA National) if we really want to get top notch performance...
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Looks to me like WR is just trying to suddenly keep the masses informed as he is desperately trying to keep his 95 hours of block plus if needed housing and car allowance. Good luck to him and the recent block rep that has rewritten reality. By the way, Albie, Vic, Micro, do you feel insulted by that recent message. The way I read it, you guys were responsible for the company not coming to the table on our overmanning situation. But, getting the 160 ND's back to the front seat was the right thing to do and I'm sure if we ever furlough, the 160 on the bottom will see it the same way.
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[ The way I read it, you guys were responsible for the company not coming to the table on our overmanning situation.
Spot on Major....the chickens have come home to roost. DW and friends blew it last summer trying to play hard-a$$, and now they know they have to play ball with the company but in a much weaker position.
It's time to show DM and WR the door. Thanks for the effort, but we don't want someone behind the curtain pulling the strings (DW) and making the same mistakes they have in the past. C U on the line boys.
Spot on Major....the chickens have come home to roost. DW and friends blew it last summer trying to play hard-a$$, and now they know they have to play ball with the company but in a much weaker position.
It's time to show DM and WR the door. Thanks for the effort, but we don't want someone behind the curtain pulling the strings (DW) and making the same mistakes they have in the past. C U on the line boys.
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Are you guys reading the same message I am????
I'm not a big fan of WR but I don't get all of the negatives out of his message that all of you are reading into it.
Are you all trying to say - that DW and crew are the reason that the company would not negotiate in good faith? The company has never negotiated with us - they have only dictated to us! If you have been here long enough you would realize that FedEx only does things their way.
My biggest complaint (and i believe many of you have voiced the same) is the union has tried to run a "business" relationship with the company. That never will work. I'm glad they are finally playing hardball! The problem is it's just a little late and we NEVER will have the backing of the ENTIRE crewforce to make it effective. Sad but true.
I'm not a big fan of WR but I don't get all of the negatives out of his message that all of you are reading into it.
Are you all trying to say - that DW and crew are the reason that the company would not negotiate in good faith? The company has never negotiated with us - they have only dictated to us! If you have been here long enough you would realize that FedEx only does things their way.
My biggest complaint (and i believe many of you have voiced the same) is the union has tried to run a "business" relationship with the company. That never will work. I'm glad they are finally playing hardball! The problem is it's just a little late and we NEVER will have the backing of the ENTIRE crewforce to make it effective. Sad but true.
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I think they are talking about the other message that talks about some block reps backing out of reducing C/O as part of the solution. I had trouble finding the reference too.
Agreed about the company dictating, our problem is endorsing their dictation. See HKG LOA (just kidding AFW).
Agreed about the company dictating, our problem is endorsing their dictation. See HKG LOA (just kidding AFW).
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Looks to me like WR is just trying to suddenly keep the masses informed as he is desperately trying to keep his 95 hours of block plus if needed housing and car allowance. Good luck to him and the recent block rep that has rewritten reality. By the way, Albie, Vic, Micro, do you feel insulted by that recent message. The way I read it, you guys were responsible for the company not coming to the table on our overmanning situation. But, getting the 160 ND's back to the front seat was the right thing to do and I'm sure if we ever furlough, the 160 on the bottom will see it the same way.
Here is a quote from the message....."the voting representatives of the MEC agreed that we would only consider a package to mitigate overmanning that included an early retirement option".....
After ALPA rammed the age 65 legislation down the throats of everyone, there was no way on gods green earth, FedEx was going to accept a proposal that included early retirement for the guys who just championed the age 65 legislation. So basically, our NC backed by the MEC was negotiating in bad faith.
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Meanwhile they were trying to tell us that the company wouldn't come to the table. Well no wonder.
So we have the MEC to thank for the fact that rather than possibly mitigating the overmanning issue with carryover reductions and a monthly cap we instead got the atom bomb of 4a2b instead.
Thankfully we protected the interests of those guys who can hold 30 hours of carryover a month. Again.
So we have the MEC to thank for the fact that rather than possibly mitigating the overmanning issue with carryover reductions and a monthly cap we instead got the atom bomb of 4a2b instead.
Thankfully we protected the interests of those guys who can hold 30 hours of carryover a month. Again.
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