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Old 10-07-2009, 11:17 AM
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Hi Folks,

Does anyone know if I can book a first-class deviation ticket even if the original pairing's deadhead is booked in coach? The original pairing deadheads from SFO to MEM (non-stop, less than 5 block hours), however I want to book from SFO to the east coast (greater than 5 block hours). Here's the catch, the deviation flight has a connection, thus the total block is > 5 hours, but each leg is < 5 hours.

From the CBA:
A class of service higher than coach shall be authorized if:
a deadhead exceeds 5 scheduled block hours;


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Hi Folks,

Does anyone know if I can book a first-class deviation ticket even if the original pairing's deadhead is booked in coach? The original pairing deadheads from SFO to MEM (non-stop, less than 5 block hours), however I want to book from SFO to the east coast (greater than 5 block hours). Here's the catch, the deviation flight has a connection, thus the total block is > 5 hours, but each leg is < 5 hours.

From the CBA:
A class of service higher than coach shall be authorized if:
a deadhead exceeds 5 scheduled block hours;


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Yes. You can book First Class. However, you only get the bank from your originally scheduled coach class ticket.
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:28 AM
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Yes you can book first class in this case. Block hours are cumulative.
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Can also book it for a short leg on the way home if you don't have a legal rest prior to your DH (assumes the duty day is long enough to meet the 11:30duty day contract guidance)
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I have done what you are considering many times ... no problem (sometimes I have to book AA through DFW so that it ends up being >5 hours.
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Originally Posted by kronan View Post
Can also book it for a short leg on the way home if you don't have a legal rest prior to your DH (assumes the duty day is long enough to meet the 11:30duty day contract guidance)
As I understand it, the deadhead counts towards the duty day, correct.

I am operating from SLC to MEM, day hub turning, then on a different pairing operating to DTW, with a back-end deadhead.

I start my day at 1200Z in SLC (show time) and end up in DTW at 2213Z (block in). That's 9:13 duty. The deadhead I want doesn't get in until 0245Z the next day. That's 14:45 hours of duty time without a legal rest period.

When I called corporate travel to book the ticket in first class, the agent refused to do it, saying I didn't have 11:30 duty. I say I do...

Who's right?
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You are deviating, correct?

"the deadhead I want......"

Global Travel isn't counting the DEVIATION Back-End Deadhead from your long day.

I think that is the difference.
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63 View Post
When I called corporate travel to book the ticket in first class, the agent refused to do it, saying I didn't have 11:30 duty. I say I do...

Who's right?
Sounds like somebody needs to get a tripmanager account and take corporate travel out of the loop. I haven't talked to those guys in 3 years - it's a beautiful thing.
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Originally Posted by Lindy View Post
You are deviating, correct?

"the deadhead I want......"

Global Travel isn't counting the DEVIATION Back-End Deadhead from your long day.

I think that is the difference.
You're right, I am deviating...

Should the deviation back end deadhead count towards the duty time?

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