Those who get furloughed will be screwed. I don't see the IPA going out of their way to save us at all. We will be the ones who get sacraficed to make the IPA stronger. I have not heard a word from the EB in months regarding the furlough. Out of sight, out of mind!

 

I am probably the most pessimistic guy here and I would not say that the EB has not done anything in months. I feel better with this EB then any ALPA representation.

It is what it is.....the junior will always take it up the A$$........without lube, and no dinner before

 

My curiosity is piqued, what is the IPA gaining by sacrificing our own membership? What specifically has the IPA gained by the furlough?
It is ugly, especially painful for those furloughed and about to be furloughed. I believe all 170 will be furloughed this year. A clear demonstration of UPS using poor management and completely losing many opportunities to improve our UPS business position.
Don't see an out of mind IPA membership or leadership. However, UPS desires to grind all efforts to a standstill so the blame is focused on the IPA. Brilliant, and the strategy appears to be working.....

The furlough triggered the response to close the airline in an airline. Afterall, with 76 on the street, who is covering the flying?
FQS's who are only limited by FAR's and we see how UPS skirts the FAR's and intimidates FQS to take any and all schedules assigned.
Would say we all pay, since they replace all of us when UPS needs less crews and Captains. FQS sits in Captain and F.O seats. UPS survives on FQS and needs less IPA. If anyone wants to allow UPS to increase this option, work against bringing them into the IPA. Objectively, the best solution is integration. Miller should have addressed this long ago, but regardless of who had been elected, allowing an escalation of the use of FQS during furlough harmed everyone in the IPA, the 76 pay most dearly. UPS sent the bill, not the IPA.

 

Salty,
You are wise. When you speak I listen. If what you are saying is remotely true......I am pretty sure this is against a few labor laws that are on the books. You cannot replace Union workers with non-Union workers(unless there is a strike...). It is pretty clear from Dorsey, that FQS's are nothing more than replacement workers.

If this is the case why are we not pursuing legal action against this?

JUP.

 

Looks like they are doing exactly that.....

 

I know man.....getting really hard listening to the silence.

 

My view is contract language must be acknowledged by the EB in any action pursued legally. See your messages

 

Tired of mistaking activity for achievement. BT needs to produce results from the casualties.

 

mmmmm.... dinner!

 

Salty-

Those furloughed will pay the price in the long run for the IPA going after the managers as well as all the pending grievances. UPS will intentionally stick it to the furloughees at any expense to include keeping them out long enough not to recall. Remember what the EB said, we represent all IPA pilots not just the furloughed pilots. I agree they represent all of us but should be working to ensure when all is said and done they work to bring furloughed pilots back.

The EB has not made a statement regarding the furlough or OT/JA ban in some time. While guys may not be picking up OT, they are trading up big time for high credit trips. Not exactly the way I read the direction from the EB. I guess for some gurarantee is not enough, tell that to the furloughed!