What a 58 YO UPS pilot thinks about the TA
07-26-2012, 01:56 AM
#31
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Any mention of a bump in the 1st year pay in this TA for the hopefulls out there. Nothing extraordinary, just a liveble wage for a small family.
y1 = $36
y2 = $149
Im sure no one would mind something like
y1 = $56
y2 = $129
I know most of you guys already there could care less about this aspect of the contract but I felt I had to mention it.
y1 = $36
y2 = $149
Im sure no one would mind something like
y1 = $56
y2 = $129
I know most of you guys already there could care less about this aspect of the contract but I felt I had to mention it.
07-26-2012, 02:49 AM
#32
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Joined APC: Apr 2005
Posts: 534
Originally Posted by UPDRAFT
Any mention of a bump in the 1st year pay in this TA for the hopefulls out there. Nothing extraordinary, just a liveble wage for a small family.
y1 = $36
y2 = $149
Im sure no one would mind something like
y1 = $56
y2 = $129
I know most of you guys already there could care less about this aspect of the contract but I felt I had to mention it.
y1 = $36
y2 = $149
Im sure no one would mind something like
y1 = $56
y2 = $129
I know most of you guys already there could care less about this aspect of the contract but I felt I had to mention it.
As for first year pay, if I remember correctly, we tried to get a higher first year rate than what we got, but the company absolutely refused to go any higher - it was a non-starter for them. I have no idea what we are going to try for this time.
07-26-2012, 06:32 AM
#33
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,235
Originally Posted by FuF2
And years later what have we learned?
UPS furloughed like we were warned if there was any kind of hiccup and nothing in the contract really drove hiring. Hiring was to offset attrition in most cases. The EB and NC did not warn us, instead they "sold us"... I mean emphasized the goodies without any real warnings.
UPS pilots are working more for a little more money.
UPS has used their scheduling computer to squeeze out more productivity. We are working more for more money or in other words... we are carrying more pieces and/or weight per plane and/or pilot. If not, others must be carrying it.
UPS pilots have a Frankenstein jumpseat matrix that threatens to screw up FDX's system. It has reversed a previous FAA letter of interpretation that we were going to get until we decided to negotiate captain's authority. The IPA has single handed reduced captains authority. .....great
UPS pilots.... ya we got an industry leading contract... by default in some ways and by hard work in others.
UPS pilots were given a sample bid package to see how the 2006 rules worked, but later found out that the sample package did not represent what the company could really do. It was not binding for the Company. It was fluff and a sham.
Today.... hoping lessons have been learned, egos contained and things are better in the negotiations.... but we are pilots <g>
UPS furloughed like we were warned if there was any kind of hiccup and nothing in the contract really drove hiring. Hiring was to offset attrition in most cases. The EB and NC did not warn us, instead they "sold us"... I mean emphasized the goodies without any real warnings.
UPS pilots are working more for a little more money.
UPS has used their scheduling computer to squeeze out more productivity. We are working more for more money or in other words... we are carrying more pieces and/or weight per plane and/or pilot. If not, others must be carrying it.
UPS pilots have a Frankenstein jumpseat matrix that threatens to screw up FDX's system. It has reversed a previous FAA letter of interpretation that we were going to get until we decided to negotiate captain's authority. The IPA has single handed reduced captains authority. .....great
UPS pilots.... ya we got an industry leading contract... by default in some ways and by hard work in others.
UPS pilots were given a sample bid package to see how the 2006 rules worked, but later found out that the sample package did not represent what the company could really do. It was not binding for the Company. It was fluff and a sham.
Today.... hoping lessons have been learned, egos contained and things are better in the negotiations.... but we are pilots <g>
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