UPS reults
08-31-2006, 02:11 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by jungle
Throw them out, but it won't change the contract or modify the terms. We are going to have to live with it. It may not be all it could have been, but it is also better than it could have been. I voted NO, but now we all will have to live by the rule of majority. Union. We are bound together by this agreement.
You'll get another chance in the year 2015.
You'll get another chance in the year 2015.
As for 2015, why does that number keep coming up? Please don't make me any more depressed. It is amendable in 2011, no?
08-31-2006, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Zoro
Lab rat, I really hope your spouse doesn’t divorce you within the next 2 years because you’re always flying and to tired when you come home. We get divorces of 5% of the IPA pilot group every year. This will increase with this TA.
And the divorce rate? It has less to do with schedules and more to do with who one chooses to marry in life.
Last edited by Lab Rat; 08-31-2006 at 02:59 PM.
08-31-2006, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 767pilot
That is the attitude that got us where we are now. In 3 years you'll be saying, "I'll vote for anyone except Bob, Tom, or Harry"
08-31-2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Zoro
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08-31-2006, 04:32 PM
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a joke?
Well, I guess this one is a Joke too, right?
http://www.ipaontop.org/media/2_V-fi...A_07-24-06.pdf
You seem to be the typical pilot who never in your wildest dream thought you would make 223/Hr. You must be the typical reject from Eastern, Pan Am, United, NWA, etc who wound up flying cargo and all of the sudden because of 9/11 now UPS is a great place to be! Lets not forget that before we became the IPA the pay for captain at UPS was $60,000. This place is not like FEDEX and it will never be. This is a trucking company that happens to have an aviation department and we as a group, have allowed them to give us a little more money and have accepted the first offer from a company that cheats, lies and does everything in the book to bend and distort the contract to their advantage. Why don’t you ask the company to let the IPA in the contract classes they’re giving to their schedulers right now? They’ll tell you to go **** a rope, and 24 months from now, when they have extended you to oblivion and you call your union, they’ll tell you ¨ sorry, they got us on that one¨.
We’re not even at the pre-9/11 Delta and United rates for the guys who fly the heavy jets! You must be senior, like many of the guys who voted for this POS {not counting the guys who have been in the property for 13 months and who got the same bonus than a 10 year FO who has never flown a trip of open time or taken a JA}. The bottom 60% will get screwed in less than 24 months with scheduling alone. What will happen after they fill out all the ANC with all the junior guys? We’ll have several 15 year FO´s. I really hope the age 60 goes through because several here will be 15 year FO´s. Thye got what they deserve. I hope they don’t come *****ing when they loose their medical at FO pay rate, have they check what they would get?
About who you marry, boy are you naïve…… everyone has it’s limits, don’t forget, when they leave, they take half of you stuff.
http://www.ipaontop.org/media/2_V-fi...A_07-24-06.pdf
You seem to be the typical pilot who never in your wildest dream thought you would make 223/Hr. You must be the typical reject from Eastern, Pan Am, United, NWA, etc who wound up flying cargo and all of the sudden because of 9/11 now UPS is a great place to be! Lets not forget that before we became the IPA the pay for captain at UPS was $60,000. This place is not like FEDEX and it will never be. This is a trucking company that happens to have an aviation department and we as a group, have allowed them to give us a little more money and have accepted the first offer from a company that cheats, lies and does everything in the book to bend and distort the contract to their advantage. Why don’t you ask the company to let the IPA in the contract classes they’re giving to their schedulers right now? They’ll tell you to go **** a rope, and 24 months from now, when they have extended you to oblivion and you call your union, they’ll tell you ¨ sorry, they got us on that one¨.
We’re not even at the pre-9/11 Delta and United rates for the guys who fly the heavy jets! You must be senior, like many of the guys who voted for this POS {not counting the guys who have been in the property for 13 months and who got the same bonus than a 10 year FO who has never flown a trip of open time or taken a JA}. The bottom 60% will get screwed in less than 24 months with scheduling alone. What will happen after they fill out all the ANC with all the junior guys? We’ll have several 15 year FO´s. I really hope the age 60 goes through because several here will be 15 year FO´s. Thye got what they deserve. I hope they don’t come *****ing when they loose their medical at FO pay rate, have they check what they would get?
About who you marry, boy are you naïve…… everyone has it’s limits, don’t forget, when they leave, they take half of you stuff.
08-31-2006, 04:34 PM
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for lab rat
you said:
And the divorce rate? It has less to do with schedules and more to do with who one chooses to marry in life.
Do you think schedules are going to improve with this new contract? You really didn´t read article 13
And the divorce rate? It has less to do with schedules and more to do with who one chooses to marry in life.
Do you think schedules are going to improve with this new contract? You really didn´t read article 13
08-31-2006, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Zoro
Well, I guess this one is a Joke too, right?
http://www.ipaontop.org/media/2_V-fi...A_07-24-06.pdf
You seem to be the typical pilot who never in your wildest dream thought you would make 223/Hr. You must be the typical reject from Eastern, Pan Am, United, NWA, etc who wound up flying cargo and all of the sudden because of 9/11 now UPS is a great place to be! Lets not forget that before we became the IPA the pay for captain at UPS was $60,000. This place is not like FEDEX and it will never be. This is a trucking company that happens to have an aviation department and we as a group, have allowed them to give us a little more money and have accepted the first offer from a company that cheats, lies and does everything in the book to bend and distort the contract to their advantage. Why don’t you ask the company to let the IPA in the contract classes they’re giving to their schedulers right now? They’ll tell you to go **** a rope, and 24 months from now, when they have extended you to oblivion and you call your union, they’ll tell you ¨ sorry, they got us on that one¨.
We’re not even at the pre-9/11 Delta and United rates for the guys who fly the heavy jets! You must be senior, like many of the guys who voted for this POS {not counting the guys who have been in the property for 13 months and who got the same bonus than a 10 year FO who has never flown a trip of open time or taken a JA}. The bottom 60% will get screwed in less than 24 months with scheduling alone. What will happen after they fill out all the ANC with all the junior guys? We’ll have several 15 year FO´s. I really hope the age 60 goes through because several here will be 15 year FO´s. Thye got what they deserve. I hope they don’t come *****ing when they loose their medical at FO pay rate, have they check what they would get?
About who you marry, boy are you naïve…… everyone has it’s limits, don’t forget, when they leave, they take half of you stuff.
http://www.ipaontop.org/media/2_V-fi...A_07-24-06.pdf
You seem to be the typical pilot who never in your wildest dream thought you would make 223/Hr. You must be the typical reject from Eastern, Pan Am, United, NWA, etc who wound up flying cargo and all of the sudden because of 9/11 now UPS is a great place to be! Lets not forget that before we became the IPA the pay for captain at UPS was $60,000. This place is not like FEDEX and it will never be. This is a trucking company that happens to have an aviation department and we as a group, have allowed them to give us a little more money and have accepted the first offer from a company that cheats, lies and does everything in the book to bend and distort the contract to their advantage. Why don’t you ask the company to let the IPA in the contract classes they’re giving to their schedulers right now? They’ll tell you to go **** a rope, and 24 months from now, when they have extended you to oblivion and you call your union, they’ll tell you ¨ sorry, they got us on that one¨.
We’re not even at the pre-9/11 Delta and United rates for the guys who fly the heavy jets! You must be senior, like many of the guys who voted for this POS {not counting the guys who have been in the property for 13 months and who got the same bonus than a 10 year FO who has never flown a trip of open time or taken a JA}. The bottom 60% will get screwed in less than 24 months with scheduling alone. What will happen after they fill out all the ANC with all the junior guys? We’ll have several 15 year FO´s. I really hope the age 60 goes through because several here will be 15 year FO´s. Thye got what they deserve. I hope they don’t come *****ing when they loose their medical at FO pay rate, have they check what they would get?
About who you marry, boy are you naïve…… everyone has it’s limits, don’t forget, when they leave, they take half of you stuff.
**Sigh**, where should I begin. Let's analyze your statement piece by piece shall we. Here we go.
You said:
You seem to be the typical pilot who never in your wildest dream thought you would make 223/Hr.
You must be the typical reject from Eastern, Pan Am, United, NWA, etc who wound up flying cargo and all of the sudden because of 9/11 now UPS is a great place to be!
Lets not forget that before we became the IPA the pay for captain at UPS was $60,000.
This place is not like FEDEX and it will never be.
This is a trucking company that happens to have an aviation department...
...have allowed them to give us a little more money and have accepted the first offer from a company that cheats, lies and does everything in the book to bend and distort the contract to their advantage.
Why don’t you ask the company to let the IPA in the contract classes they’re giving to their schedulers right now?
¨ sorry, they got us on that one¨.
We’re not even at the pre-9/11 Delta and United rates for the guys who fly the heavy jets!
You must be senior,
The bottom 60% will get screwed in less than 24 months with scheduling alone.
What will happen after they fill out all the ANC with all the junior guys?
We’ll have several 15 year FO´s.
I really hope the age 60 goes through because several here will be 15 year FO´s.
Thye got what they deserve.
I hope they don’t come *****ing when they loose their medical at FO pay rate, have they check what they would get?
Look, if you want me to try and take you seriously then you are going to have to type a little more clearly and with a little bit more emphasis on grammar.
About who you marry, boy are you naïve…… everyone has it’s limits, don’t forget, when they leave, they take half of you stuff.
Last edited by Lab Rat; 08-31-2006 at 05:36 PM.
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