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08-31-2006 | 07:52 AM
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Zoro...
Tell me exactly what you don't like about the scheduling article. Everyone who voted no just says "it sucks" but offer no concrete examples of how their lives will be worse than under the current contract.
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Tell me exactly what you don't like about the scheduling article. Everyone who voted no just says "it sucks" but offer no concrete examples of how their lives will be worse than under the current contract.
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08-31-2006 | 08:21 AM
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How weak can you be. I was hoping you fence sitters would have read the TA in its entirety and not only think about the bonus. I was hoping if you had any questions you would have called the grievance committee members and look at www.ipaontop.org and asked more questions. You wanted ME to give you all the answers? Let’s talk in a year or two and let’s see where we are as a pilot group and what the company has done to us on every chapter of this new TA, especially chapter 13 which is BTW since you seem to be spoon fed, the scheduling article
Calling someone weak because they voted yes does not help create unity. FWI, I voted yes. I read the entire contract, weighed the pros and cons and made a determination that a yes vote would be good for me and my household. If that makes me weak than so be it, because the majority has spoken and the majority have said yes.
I was hoping if you had any questions you would have called the grievance committee members and look at www.ipaontop.org and asked more questions.
08-31-2006 | 09:49 AM
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How weak can you be. I was hoping you fence sitters would have read the TA in its entirety and not only think about the bonus. I was hoping if you had any questions you would have called the grievance committee members and look at www.ipaontop.org and asked more questions. You wanted ME to give you all the answers? Let’s talk in a year or two and let’s see where we are as a pilot group and what the company has done to us on every chapter of this new TA, especially chapter 13 which is BTW since you seem to be spoon fed, the scheduling article
08-31-2006 | 10:17 AM
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let´s talk in 24 months
Lab rat, I really hope your spouse doesn’t divorce you within the next 2 years because you’re always flying and to tired when you come home. We get divorces of 5% of the IPA pilot group every year. This will increase with this TA.
Brown Tail, I hate to disappoint you but I’m not Franco fratangelli, even though he has a great website. Let’s go back 2 years from now and re-read his website and weigh in what was said there and what’s going on at UPS.
Brown Tail, I hate to disappoint you but I’m not Franco fratangelli, even though he has a great website. Let’s go back 2 years from now and re-read his website and weigh in what was said there and what’s going on at UPS.
08-31-2006 | 10:21 AM
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I spent several hours with several GC members who brought up to light several issues {I mean several} that were won in the G. process and that were given back to the compnay. Didn´t you read the email Cindy D. sent out saying they were given the house away, that there was no bottom line? Cindy is a EB member for the IPA, she was there during negotiations. Why don´t you call her like I´ve done and ask her yourself?
08-31-2006 | 10:27 AM
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Zoro...
Cindy has stated numerous times (or don't you remember) that this scheduling article has some pluses and minuses but overall it is superior to the one we live under today. What part of that did u miss?
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Cindy has stated numerous times (or don't you remember) that this scheduling article has some pluses and minuses but overall it is superior to the one we live under today. What part of that did u miss?
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08-31-2006 | 11:48 AM
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That is the attitude that got us where we are now. In 3 years you'll be saying, "I'll vote for anyone except Bob, Tom, or Harry"
08-31-2006 | 11:50 AM
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Zoro,
Maybe if you would have actually answered my questions I asked you, you may have swayed me the other way. I was on the fence the entire time and I was looking for someone to give me good answers. Unfortunately, people did a lot of complaining but never gave specifics.
Maybe if you would have actually answered my questions I asked you, you may have swayed me the other way. I was on the fence the entire time and I was looking for someone to give me good answers. Unfortunately, people did a lot of complaining but never gave specifics.
Did you, a free thinking human, really need someone else to help you with this decsion? Enjoy your spot on the list, you'll probably be there a while.
08-31-2006 | 11:51 AM
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If the yard stick is whether it is better than the old contract or not, you can make the case in many areas that it is better than the old. Now make the yardstick, "is this good enough and what I want to live under for the next 5 years?" and the answers you get back should be different.
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