Clutch

With your Fri to Sunday example will we get 12.8hrs Jan 08 when trip rig is 3.75? I am trying to figure out what that rule does for a Memphis domestic dude. Any idea if this changes RLG for guys on Reserve?

ViperD

 

Starting Jan 08

ACTUAL CREDIT HOURS (ACH)
ACH is computed at the completion of an assignment.
a. ACH for a duty period is the highest of:
i. MPDP; or
ii. actual block hours; or
iii. actual duty rig.
b. ACH for a trip is the higher of:
i. trip rig as actually flown, plus actual revenue block hours in
excess of 8 in any duty period, plus duty rig for the portion of
any duty period beyond the scheduled on duty limitations; or
ii. the sum of ACH for each duty period.

OVERRIDE SCHEDULED CREDIT (OSC)
OSC for a trip is the higher of:
a. trip rig as scheduled, plus actual revenue block hours in excess of 8 in
any duty period; or
b. The sum of the scheduled credit hour values of the duty periods. The
scheduled credit hour value of each duty period is computed as the
highest of:
i. minimum pay per duty period (MPDP); or
ii. block hours; or
iii. duty rig.

If a trip's ACH exceed OSC or the trip is operationally extended past its original
scheduled return time, a pilot shall earn overage CH computed as the higher of:
a. ACH minus the sum of OSC for the trip and SCH of any subsequent trip(s)
removed with pay due to actual conflict; or
b. trip rig computed for the time the extended trip conflicts with time the pilot
was scheduled to be free from duty at base, if such time exceeds 2 hours.

 

The credit hour (CH) value for a trip is computed as the higher of:
a. Trip rig, plus revenue block hours in excess of 10 hours in any duty period;
or
b. The sum of the credit hour values of the duty periods. The credit hour
value of each duty period is computed as the highest of:
i. minimum pay per duty period (MPDP); or
ii. block hours; or
iii. duty rig.
2. Computation of Credit Hour Values
a. Trip Rig
Trip rig is 1 CH for each 4 hours of time away from base (TAFB), rounded
to the nearest minute. Beginning with the January 2008, bid period, trip rig
shall change to 1 CH for each 3.75 hours of TAFB, rounded to the nearest
minute.
b. Minimum Pay Per Duty Period (MPDP)
A pilot may earn a maximum of 1 MPDP per duty period as follows:
i. MPDP-1
Duty periods during a trip, when such trip contains at least one
layover, shall have an MPDP-1 of 3 CH.
ii. MPDP-2
A duty period comprised exclusively of a trip which departs and returns
to base in the same duty period shall have an MPDP-2 of 6 CH.
iii. MPDP-E
A duty period which operates into and out of a designated MPDP-E
sort facility shall have an MPDP-E of 6 CH when the duty period
neither originated nor terminated at base.
iv. MPDP-F
The final duty period of a trip, which is comprised of revenue flying
then deadhead to base, shall have an MPDP-F of 9 CH when:
(a) the flight sequence originates at a layover city; and
(b) operates to a designated sort facility; and
(c) transits such facility and operates to another city; and
(d) transits such city and concludes with a deadhead by air to base.

I think it changes RLG:
Reserve Credit Hour Accrual
1. A pilot who is assigned a trip(s) or base standby in reserve status shall have the
trip guarantee or standby pay credited toward his leveling and/or RLG as
follows:
a. For leveling, trip guarantee or standby pay shall be credited upon
assignment.
b. For RLG, trip guarantee or standby pay shall be credited when that pilot:
i. actually blocks out on the trip;
ii. shows for the standby;
iii. is bumped from the trip or standby; or
iv. is removed from the reserve assignment for sick leave in accordance
with Section 14.B.5.b. (Sick Leave).

 

All of you make great comments. I spent hours perusing this TA and reminds me of our MEM coffee. Good at first sip then it gets bitter and just down-right smells. And no matter how much sugar and flavored-moo you introduce, it just doesn't seem right.

I will wait for the road show (kool aid) and reserve judgement.

I've changed to green tea. Remember to let your bag soak for less than 1 minute, otherwise it to will be bitter.

 

...freightdawg...yes i was here when we voted down cassell's ta....i still don;t think the dynamics are the same..i don't think it would take two more years...i'm not sure how i will vote yet..need to listen to the guys who know this stuff...we'll see...take care, clutch

 

Clutch,
We have never had a Min Pay Per Day here and i have been here since 84. We HAVE always had MPDP (Duty period). What we gave up last time was the 3.43 to 1 trip rig which equated to the 7 hour days. There was then and is still is trip rig washout, it's just a different ratio. MPPD would be a great thing but it is costly and obviously we couldn't get it along with everything else this time.

 

Keep one thing in mind if you guys turn this thing down, the UPS pilots have your back. How? By having our contract secured, there is incredible competitive pressure placed on your management to settle. The timing of your contract settlement being so close to ours was so that nobody could have bragging rights to labor peace. Turn it down and the customers will begin to flock to UPS. The longer your management takes to make things right by you guys, the more that they will be hurt by the customers.

Get a better deal now and it will help us all next time around.

 

a valid point..........

 

Geez, just turn it down!!! I want the option of saving all that dues money!!

 

Clutch,

One of the reasons why we may be working extra days as opposed to pre 2001 is due to the increased number of day flights. A typical 6 credit hour trip that departs at 2am and returns at 11pm works one calendar day. A typical 6 credit hour trip that departs at 3pm and returns at 11am the next day works 2 calendar days, but one day for pay.