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09-27-2011, 02:18 AM
#51
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Position: MD-11 FO
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Originally Posted by MacGuy2
Is there a problem with the LRN? And do you think the "asinine policy masterminds" on the 777 forced that LRN down the throat of MD-11 Standards? I think the MD-11 bubbas decided they liked it and altered for themselves.
As and aside, I remember recurrent training recently where JR (of MD fame) lectured ALL the fleets on the approved MD landing technique. That was some useful information for us non-MD types.
MG2
As and aside, I remember recurrent training recently where JR (of MD fame) lectured ALL the fleets on the approved MD landing technique. That was some useful information for us non-MD types.
MG2
The problem is the need for a "required guide" for things we are supposed to know and are already doing. Where is our " V1, rotate, positive rate-gear up" take-off guide?
09-27-2011, 02:44 AM
#52
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Have noticed that with 2 full crews that it is more of a crew coordination tool than a memory tool. After a 4 hour nap, I can review the lrn instead of asking the other crew a bunch of questions before they go down for their nap what has and has not been accomplished.
09-27-2011, 03:53 AM
#53
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Position: MD-11
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Originally Posted by TheBaron
Should be "asinine policy" masterminds.
The problem is the need for a "required guide" for things we are supposed to know and are already doing. Where is our " V1, rotate, positive rate-gear up" take-off guide?
The problem is the need for a "required guide" for things we are supposed to know and are already doing. Where is our " V1, rotate, positive rate-gear up" take-off guide?
09-27-2011, 04:01 AM
#54
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Position: 767 Captain
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Originally Posted by TheBaron
Should be "asinine policy" masterminds.
The problem is the need for a "required guide" for things we are supposed to know and are already doing. Where is our " V1, rotate, positive rate-gear up" take-off guide?
The problem is the need for a "required guide" for things we are supposed to know and are already doing. Where is our " V1, rotate, positive rate-gear up" take-off guide?
09-27-2011, 06:27 AM
#55
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
Lots of guys going to the 777 are coming from another widebody that doesn't do much long range anything. Maybe this policy is an attempt to toss them a bone? I'm not saying it's right, but if all you've been doing is hub turning for the last decade, you might need that guide for a while.
09-28-2011, 03:33 AM
#56
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Originally Posted by TheBaron
No problem with that. Make it available as a reference. The FOM requires that we turn it in with our paperwork...that's my issue with it.
If you didn't have to turn it in, the pilots who need it the most would be the most likely to not look at it at all. Wouldn't serve much purpose then..
MG2
09-28-2011, 07:12 AM
#59
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Originally Posted by MacGuy2
Really, how difficult and time consuming is the LRN?? And if it keeps one crew from a gross navigational error, then it's a not a bad thing.
If you didn't have to turn it in, the pilots who need it the most would be the most likely to not look at it at all. Wouldn't serve much purpose then..
MG2
If you didn't have to turn it in, the pilots who need it the most would be the most likely to not look at it at all. Wouldn't serve much purpose then..
MG2
Passport and appropriate visas...check
Plotting chart...check
Checklist....check
I only hope the new airplane (767 or airbus) fleet Captain will treat his pilots a little less like children.
09-28-2011, 07:55 AM
#60
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Originally Posted by TheBaron
This is what we get paid to do and are supposed to know how to do it.
I only hope the new airplane (767 or airbus) fleet Captain will treat his pilots a little less like children.
MG2
Baron--the above is NOT a dig at you.
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