I've seen LIDO mentioned here as well as on the UPS website. What exactly is that refering to?

Just curious.....

 

LIDO


Tipsy

 

LIDO is a flight planning program that takes into acount the winds aloft. You might get a flight plan that has you going all over the place but in theory it should get you to your destination sooner therefore using less fuel. Even if ATC gives you the option to go direct somewhere, the company wants you to remain on the flight plan to take advantage of the winds figured out by the LIDO program. Does it work? I don't know, I still haven't figured out how to fly two airplanes at the same time, going direct and using LIDO and see who gets there first.

Hope this helps. There is more involved but this is a basic indoc into LIDO.

 

At FedEx the term is used to refer to our maps and charts vendor. As of this month we no longer use Jeppessen approach plates.

Instead of carrying a 40-50# bag of binders, there is now two subscriptions of "LIDO" per aircraft. The learning curve of reading new charts has been steep; but it is worth it.

 

In FDX's case we have replaced our Jeppesen chart product with LIDO. We no longer carry our individual Jepp Kits. All charts are now stored on the aircraft. This is in preparaton for introduction of the Electronic Flight Bag. FDX decided to use LIDO vs Jepp because the LIDO product is far superior in terms of it's adapatability to an electronic format. Personally, I still think that Jepp is a superior product in terms of how the charts are drawn, especially the enroute charts.

 

The discussions on this forum concerning Lido, are referring to the approach plates. Fedex just converted from Jepps to Lido plates. Currently, we have paper copies of the plates in all of our acft, and the plan is to transition to electronic plates in the future. There are good and bad points to each, but the fundamental plus is that we do not carry plates with us personally.

 

Let's not forget about not having to do revisions anymore!!!!!

(nice double negative eh?)

 

The LIDO presentation sold itself to FedEx when it was domonstrated how it will work well in the electronic flight bag version. The Jepp idea was PDF files that could be brought up on the EFB screen. They didn't orient to the direction of airplane movement and were your basic dull Jepp colors. LIDO will be fully functioning. Good color, it'll orient to aircraft direction and a ton of other good stuff. But it's still LIDO. I have to say that I'm not impressed with what I have to do to figure out how to do a departure or an arrival. Poorly laid out and spread out everywhere.

Now, if I was part of the 727 or DC-10 community I'd be totally ****ed. Those airplanes will never see the EFB so they're stuck with the paper product. And the paper product is a total pain to use. Where do the 727 guys lay all of that crap as they're getting ready to brief?

 

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Now, if I was part of the 727 or DC-10 community I'd be totally ****ed. Those airplanes will never see the EFB so they're stuck with the paper product. And the paper product is a total pain to use. Where do the 727 guys lay all of that crap as they're getting ready to brief?[/QUOTE]

So why they couln't leave the 27 and the 10 with jepps. We're using an emergency backup system as our primary means of navigation. Most of the -10 models of the DC-10 and a lot of 727's only have 2 VORs, 2 DMEs, and an ADF for nav use. And there aren't many(any?) ADF arpproaches any more.

 

A better question is why didn't FDX just place fully stocked JEPP kits aboard every airplane like they did with Lidos?

They could have done this 10 years ago which would have saved more than a few shoulders of old pilots with Rotater Cup problems.

Everyone would have been happy to shed the Jepp bag and they would not have had to teach old dogs new tricks.

I'll admit The EFB looks pretty cool, but Just not having to tote a jepp bag around or do revisons would have been plenty for me........and they could have done that years ago, which would have saved FDX a lot of $$ by reducing the # of JEPP required to be sent to every pilot. Go Figure

Maybe we all should "Ask Tony" on the other Thread. Sorry Tony I couldn't resist