Normal FedEx Approach??
11-27-2012 | 05:12 AM
#112
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From: MD11 FO, ANC
(from what we see in this video & not having the cockpit tapes and/or FDR to go with it - as I stated earlier - "anything is possible")
The end (outcome = didn't crash or land gear up) doesn't justify the means.
P.S. whether this approach was filmed before the FOM-directed "stabilized approach" criteria being implemented or not does not make it any more or less safe. Legality is a different question all-together. Definitely unsafe.
Great discussion here about it too.
11-27-2012 | 06:37 AM
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Pretty obvious to me this video is just the last bit of what was a $hit hot break ("overhead" for you USAF types). Prolly 450 at the initial, 4G break at the numbers, dude finally got it slowed to gear speed on short final.
I'd call it: SHB (HFWUX) (\IM) (LOBIC-AR)
OK pass.
I'd call it: SHB (HFWUX) (\IM) (LOBIC-AR)
OK pass.
11-27-2012 | 06:44 AM
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Pretty obvious to me this video is just the last bit of what was a $hit hot break ("overhead" for you USAF types). Prolly 450 at the initial, 4G break at the numbers, dude finally got it slowed to gear speed on short final.
I'd call it: SHB (HFWUX) (\IM) (LOBIC-AR)
OK pass.
I'd call it: SHB (HFWUX) (\IM) (LOBIC-AR)
OK pass.
(of course you did say 450 at the intial - maybe s/he came in for the whisper break???) No LSO here - but at least I remember something and could have wished for such passes during my few times! 
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11-27-2012 | 10:18 AM
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11-27-2012 | 01:56 PM
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Had that problem in IAD. First they assigned 250 when I was 12nm out. Then at 10nm they gave me 170. Like you, I aim to be stabilized by 1,000 and was. On 1nm final tower tells me to speed up. The captain politely tells him to stuff it and the tower complains that we went back to final approach speed 3 miles out! I couldn't care less. I fly by the book and could care less if that makes ATC slow down traffic behind me.
11-27-2012 | 02:13 PM
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Yes there is doubt they were rushed or gaffed off a checklist. I see an aircraft flown on glidepath on speed. The gear likely came down late rushed/gaffed or more likely distracted. They likely pushed the 500' target and if that is the case they probably should have gone around. In the cockpit they made the decision that the approach was safe and what do you know, they were right.
The rest is between them and the company. None of my business.
The rest is between them and the company. None of my business.
You seem to take this personally. Just because those are you coworkers does not mean you need to wear rose-colored glasses. We learn from mistakes whether a stranger, our best friend, or even ourselves make them.
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