UPS and FAA rest rules?
11-15-2013, 07:45 AM
#32
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Maybe I missed it, but has anyone actually seen a published study of the impact of the proposed rules change? Could you point it out to us?
I have heard a lot of speculation and read an internal unpublished study and the results were mixed. There were some advantages and some disadvantages with both sets of rules. It didn't really offer a cure that some seem to think exists.
I have heard a lot of speculation and read an internal unpublished study and the results were mixed. There were some advantages and some disadvantages with both sets of rules. It didn't really offer a cure that some seem to think exists.
11-15-2013, 10:56 AM
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11-18-2013, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SonnyD
The trip rig wouldn't allow that. Less work per day = same pay, less block.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the "entitlement state" does not apply to the private sector, especially in a global market. Foreign carriers are salivating at the opportunity that the FAA has gifted them with 117. Did you hear about the Arab's recent $150B 777X order over the weekend? Do you think that has any relevance on the future of global cargo?
When will US pilot unions wake up to the global reality? My guess is when the US-based jobs dry up. And I can hear it now..."it was all management's fault."
11-19-2013, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by UPSierra
When will US pilot unions wake up to the global reality? My guess is when the US-based jobs dry up. And I can hear it now..."it was all management's fault."
11-19-2013, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by UPSierra
UPS can make schedules very conducive to sleep science
...the "entitlement state" does not apply to the private sector
And I can hear it now..."it was all management's fault."
...the "entitlement state" does not apply to the private sector
And I can hear it now..."it was all management's fault."
please...
I can hear you blaming labor for all of our country's problems but guess what? It's not so in modern times. Corporate greed has been greatest threat for over 10 years and I see no sign of it slowing down.
They are the ones pulling our elected officials into the twisted shapes we now see.
11-19-2013, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
So using fatigue science = "entitlement state"?
please...
I can hear you blaming labor for all of our country's problems but guess what? It's not so in modern times. Corporate greed has been greatest threat for over 10 years and I see no sign of it slowing down.
They are the ones pulling our elected officials into the twisted shapes we now see.
please...
I can hear you blaming labor for all of our country's problems but guess what? It's not so in modern times. Corporate greed has been greatest threat for over 10 years and I see no sign of it slowing down.
They are the ones pulling our elected officials into the twisted shapes we now see.
Easy to blame gravity for plane crashes.
Ever think that we aren't doing all we can to strengthen our own economy?
Ever think we have oriented ourselves towards economic failure and destruction rather than creating an economy which rewards success?
11-19-2013, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by UPSierra
Hey, if fatigue is that important, clearly trip rig will be on the table, as will max # days worked per month, plus hourly pay.
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