FDX-- commuting from ATL-MEM
06-19-2013 | 01:05 PM
#21
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Tony, help me with the proper punctuation on that, will you?
06-19-2013 | 01:16 PM
#22
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Driving the taxi for the kids doesn't count as duty time.
Sitting on the couch doesn't count as duty time.
Driving you car from ATL to MEM doesn't count as duty time.
Jumpseating doesn't count as duty time.
The Fleet Commander (I like that one, Busboy
) removed pilots from their trips for one of the above activities. That's why I mentioned it in this thread as an aside to suggesting one of the other activities above as a way to commute.I for one won't be caught having a friendly chat with a Fleet Commander at showtime about what I've been doing all day. He may feel the need to "say" something.
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06-19-2013 | 01:18 PM
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06-19-2013 | 01:58 PM
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Say you're flying with your friendly neighborhood SuperFlex, LCA or Fleet Commander and find yourself engaged in friendly "chat" at the folder about how and when you got to Memphis, is a response mandatory?
06-19-2013 | 02:42 PM
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Even if you didn't have the money in your bank it would be worth the $200 positive space ticket from ATL to MEM to not lose a 70 hour trip, keep off the radar and stay home another half a day! As far as one still being removed from a trip.........sounds like time to talk with the Union!
06-19-2013 | 02:48 PM
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This guy is obviously looking at the parameters of those commuting in on the company jumpseat! I agree, stay off the radar!
06-19-2013 | 03:08 PM
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Atl commute
Short answer...did it for 15 yrs in junior status and never missed an event for FedEx. Have to sign up extra early, keep track of civilian options available, and watch jumpseat status carefully as it can change quickly with equipment changes, etc. I only had to use civilian backup once in 15yrs but had to drive a couple of times. Lots of other jumpers to compete with but it can be done. Run into the same thing with DFW commute but you may have to go in a day early on occasion if there are not any other options. For me and my family it was a lot better than living in Memphis.
06-19-2013 | 03:21 PM
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no need to ask the FAA, it is in our CBA:
The provisions of Section 26.J.2. are predicated upon the
premise that time spent on a pilot scheduled Company
jumpseat is not accrued duty time under this contract or the
FARs. Should the Company be required to consider time spent
on a pilot scheduled Company jumpseat as accrued duty time,
Section 26.J.2., shall become null and void immediately.
The provisions of Section 26.J.2. are predicated upon the
premise that time spent on a pilot scheduled Company
jumpseat is not accrued duty time under this contract or the
FARs. Should the Company be required to consider time spent
on a pilot scheduled Company jumpseat as accrued duty time,
Section 26.J.2., shall become null and void immediately.
06-19-2013 | 03:44 PM
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From: Couch Potato
I guess I'm not the sharpest tack in the barn, but 26.J.2.a says, The period beginning at scheduled showtime of a pilot’s inbound jumpseat and ending 30 minutes after the scheduled termination of his first duty period must be less than 13:30. So if you exceed the 13:30 that puts you in violation of the CBA. Doesn't that mean the Fleet Commander can remove you from a trip to keep you "legal" per the CBA since you have chosen not to maintain your own legality?
Not trying to be a Fleet Commander side-kick here. Just trying to understand how you can book an inbound J/S when headed out on a 14 hour trip after the J/S when this section of the CBA specifically prohibits it.
Please splain this to me.
MG2
Not trying to be a Fleet Commander side-kick here. Just trying to understand how you can book an inbound J/S when headed out on a 14 hour trip after the J/S when this section of the CBA specifically prohibits it.
Please splain this to me.
MG2
06-19-2013 | 03:46 PM
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I guess I'm not the sharpest tack in the barn, but 26.J.2.a says, The period beginning at scheduled showtime of a pilot’s inbound jumpseat and ending 30 minutes after the scheduled termination of his first duty period must be less than 13:30. So if you exceed the 13:30 that puts you in violation of the CBA. Doesn't that mean the Fleet Commander can remove you from a trip to keep you "legal" per the CBA since you have chosen not to maintain your own legality?
Not trying to be a Fleet Commander side-kick here. Just trying to understand how you can book an inbound J/S when headed out on a 14 hour trip after the J/S when this section of the CBA specifically prohibits it.
Please splain this to me.
MG2
Not trying to be a Fleet Commander side-kick here. Just trying to understand how you can book an inbound J/S when headed out on a 14 hour trip after the J/S when this section of the CBA specifically prohibits it.
Please splain this to me.
MG2
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