Scary thing is you dont realize how dangerous you are.

 

Its a good thing you dont work as an accident investigator. Or perhaps that is your calling in life. You would have it all wrapped up within just a few minutes. TEM amigo, your infoulable attitude is the number one threat. You are a hazard to yourself and a danger to those around you.

 

Remember those first rules for pilots. It was one page and had about 10 rules. Now We have over 10 chapters of how to do it right. Why the increase in SOP, because what we thought would keep us perfect wasn't enough. Just saying you can follow the rules and still up in a bad spot.

 

One one flight? Do tell us more.

As Atlas pilots, I know they have been in some real crapholes and crap conditions as well. So don't pat yourself on the back too hard.

I suspect you have no real insight or facts about what happened unless you have a direct line to the crew. Otherwise you are like everyone else...reading the funnies and armchair quarterbacking.

Which means that your pronouncements are bilge. You don't know what the union...or the company will do. Sounds like despite the fact that there was no damage or injury, you want scalps. Pretty sad. An opportunity exists for a teaching event and some like you decree via keyboard.

That's why the industry has programs like ASAP. Everyone realized that pilots ARE human and errors DO happen. And instead of your heads on pikes approach, it's better to find out if common threads exist (like multiple similar events at these airports over the years) and if the common thread can be defined, how to fix it.

I'd also suspect that a company like Atlas, who operates in more hairy places than you, understands this and is less likely to throw people under the bus like you are.

 

No crap, on ONE flight?

Did you see any Migs and go into a 4G negative dive?

 

agree just wondering why not the "direct to nearest" airport option on the GPS was not used, if installed. They requested the RNAV approach, so I assume some sort of GPS avionics were installed.

 

Given that they completely ignored the RNAV approach they were cleared to fly and dropped in 6 miles early... the fact that they were disoriented enough to have issues with what you point out is not surprising. What caused that is the big question.

 

Good copy yes I agree....

 

Okay Dr Cronkite... I'm game.

 

This has nothing to do with visual acuity, it's all about the geometry which creates visual illusions. The outline of the shorter, narrower runway will be identical to the longer, wider runway at a particular point in the approach (the location of that point varying based on the actual dimensions involved). This is an important visual illusion to remember so that you can prevent confirmation bias from leading you down the path to a similar mistake.

The B747-400 doesn't have a Garmin 430, it has an integrated flight management system.

The FMS database doesn't include Jabara airport because the runway specs for Jabara airport do not support an airplane the size of of B747. The FMS told them exactly where they were, in Lat/Lon, but it had no idea that there was an airport there. The FIX page could have told them their bearing and distance to Mc Connell and would have been a good place to use to cross-check on the enroute chart for their location.