Gunter

Besides "smiles", which is nice, we do have a little more going for us.

Two raises that we would not have had during the interim.

Gunter

This is bass ackwards thinking.

You should be asking yourself questions like, "What if we called for a strike and no one even called in sick?"

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.

This needs to be a grass roots effort. We need to show the MEC what we want starting with our individual actions.

Busboy

Once again, the real point is being missed.

We are in YEAR 4 of contract negotiations!

Gunter

Then act like it!

onetime

I don't see flying what you bid, nothing more, nothing less, as a personal sacrifice. Maybe that's just me. There are times to get EXTRA, but now is not that time IMHO. We should not need union leadership to tell us that. That said, peak after a contract is signed should be a feast for all who want to partake.

As for words from leadership, they are telling us everything they want us to hear, not necessarily everything that is happening.

FDXLAG

I believe that was Tony's point.

TonyC

I would think you could understand the difference between negotiating between Section 6 (FDA LOA) and DURING Section 6 (4 year 9 month limit to make CGN possible).


The average FedEx pilot didn't even have Pay Raise in his Top 5 CBA Improvements, but we couldn't wait for a complete CBA Negotiation to get an hourly rate increase? We've lost more in Accepted Fares abuse over the last 3 years than we gained with 2 pay bumps, and we only memorialized moving the line on our pay rates over time graph to the right, leaving a permanent gap under the slope we had.

Yes, we had leverage, and we squandered it, but that's history. Where are we today? Any closer to achieving your Top 5 CBA Improvements?

Busboy

I am having a bake sale to raise money for an advertisement in the WSJ and my family and I are going to do some informational picketing next week at the local FDX facility. Want to donate or join me?

MD11HOG

.[/QUOTEAgreed. But in the future, I wish the union would hold these events at a venue the respects our second amendment rights. I have not been able to attend one yet due to Buffalo Wild Wings polices.[/QUOTE]

A perfect example of what is preventing us from getting substantial contract improvements. The idea of FedEx pilots actually taking action is ludicrous because we have continued to put ourself before the group. It's always "somebody do something, just not me." Where a lanyard? "It doesn't matter." Don't fly open time? "It fits my schedule" Come to a union function? "No, corporation Buffalo WW is against the constitution and wants to destroy the America I Love" . Rant on the internet uselessly? Ok! (This post as an example)
An object thinking of itself continues to think of itself until acted on by an outside force.
To lighten the mood: At least the vacation won't have concessions. It was listed as mostly complete.

TonyC

It's not just you, but it's certainly not everyone. We have guys on here bragging about bidding lines that are bought up and then adding a trip here or there to beef it up, and nobody blinks.


PiBS is still on the table.

What you should be hearing is we are very unhappy about the progress of negotiations, and we will be calling on you to demonstrate our collective displeasure. We will begin Informational Picketing to protest FedEx's intransigence and bad-faith negotiations.


But, that might hurt somebody's feelings, so enjoy your extra flying.






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