If you're wondering if they really do appreciate the job we're doing, try the KCM line. You'll get the attitude adjustment you deserve.

So many things have been glossed over or ignored in that diatribe.

How can higher costs due to expected deletion of the cargo cutout count against us in negotiations?

 

Well, let's give his idea some consideration. We resign the contract we have now, with every pilot getting a $166K/yr raise for five years. Nice and easy, and I'm sure many of us (though we'd like other improvements) would be interested in that.

 

I agree with PC....$166k/year/pilot is a bit much. I think $150k/year/pilot is more reasonable. Let's lower our expectations by 10% and call it a deal!

 

Why sell yourself short!

$166K/year just starts to make up for how much we have been shorted in the past by their re- interpretation of work rules!

 

How can they afford those kind of numbers, you fools?

They're already spending $881,000 per pilot to buy back shares.

And, they've nearly doubled the stock dividend since we signed the last real contract, in 2006. That's an extra $26,000/yr per pilot they have to pay out, compared to 2006. They got their 82% dividend raise, we got our 6%.

Think how much revenue those stockholders are producing every day and night. The pie is only so big...You can't reward everyone.

Now, get back to eating your cake, you filthy peasants!!

 

Fishing been great, summer is half over so time to enjoy your family and friends.
Don't forget to order your hat!
My NC speaks for me!

 

Of course it is direct negotiation. That is their job and it is their website, they can post what they like. Unless it is an FCIF you don't have to read it

 

Have a hat.

When I get home on Friday I will be off until sometime in September.

I love our vacation system!

 

If the $ numbers are only 25% accurate, think of the compensation (pay & benefits combined) we are forfeiting by repeatedly approving contracts with no incentive to negotiate on time. 24+ months to sign the 2006 contract, now 40 months after our current one expired. 64+ months of status quo, why wouldn't the company stall, good business sense in their eyes? If we do not include an automatic pay raise, snap back, or some other incentive for the company & ALPA to settle on time, why would anyone expect the same to not continue? This is still a great place to fly. I agree with some of the leadership comments posted. The majors are now providing compensation & benefits that match or in some cases surpass us and their profits pale in comparison. It's been too long, it's embarrassing and a few new pilots are already voting with their feet. Contract Now, make it a Win-Win, we do not want to enter peak without at least a TA to consider, we will all lose IMHO.

 

I mostly agree with the Coffee B*tch except I'll take the conspiracy a step further. I can imagine that the number crunchers have already looked at a probable TA outcome that resembles 3%/year plus some sort of retro-pay (we've proven that we'll settle for that small amount more than once) and have arrived at a cost savings per day for every day they can delay signing said Contract.

I can even imagine that there are folks on the management side of the table getting bonuses based on how long they can delay signing.

Every day that goes by "they" save money. Your salary and benefits are a necessary evil to get the freight moved overnight.

If you think they care one iota about us you are kidding yourself. It would be nice if we worked at an organization where Management was your friend. I've worked places where that was the case. It's not that way here. I'm disappointed ...


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