PC's VIPs message, your thoughts?
#81
You haven't looked in a while. The DCO is for non-members not subject to agency shop. He isn't on DCO, because that is a voluntary program.
What this whole issue tells me is that he is a very petty person. He got a job under section ten of the contract and then wants to whine about having to pay his dues from a bonus.
What this whole issue tells me is that he is a very petty person. He got a job under section ten of the contract and then wants to whine about having to pay his dues from a bonus.
So, is he vulnerable for termination?
#82
If he was the NC, I guess he is just following in the steps of PC. Unbelievable would be an understatement IMO. Where do we get these guys anyway? (rhetorical Q)
#83
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Having said that...He should definitely not be wearing anything that identifies him as a member of our union.
#84
Ladies and Gentlemen:
We’ve passed the window of opportunity to have a CBA (or even a T/A) by Christmas. Our MEC, and we as FedEx ALPA have squandered away another opportunity to do meaningful and productive work for ourselves. Management has to be laughing their asses off.
Our MEC is having their joint council meeting on AUG 13th. If on that day they decide our negotiations are moving at an unacceptable pace, should they decide to take a strike vote? (They decide – we vote). That bit of voting takes … 30 days. That puts us into the middle of September. When the vote passes by 50% +1 (or 99%), should our MEC go to the NMB and ask for non-binding arbitration, and then to be released to self-help? The Company has to agree too, but why should they? They’re pleased with the progress moving forward at a snails pace. If the non-binding arbitration fails then we can ask the NMB to be released to self-help. After 40 months, does anybody believe we should be close to an agreement? After 40 months of negotiating, are we even close enough to ask the NMB for non-binding arbitration?
We’re going to have informational picketing in late September, but does anybody believe that’ll have an impact on negotiations or an impact on peak? Why weren’t we picketing in … June or July?
Folks – as I see it, the MEC hasn’t kept their eye on the ball. [We] have squandered a golden opportunity to avoid wasting our money another year. We took the second 3% pay raise to allow the Company to expedite an EU domicile, and because we weren’t ready with openers for a full Section 6 bargaining. Was there ever an established time-line with identified goals and options if negotiations started slipping?
If you’re not absolutely angered at the pace things are going, I’m not sure what it would take. Perhaps hearing rumors of concessions with our retirement will get your attention. If the Company wants to see 1,000 crew members bail on short notice, give us a T/A with retirement concessions (including but not limited to pay, health care and retirement age).
Very Respectfully,
Nakazawa
We’ve passed the window of opportunity to have a CBA (or even a T/A) by Christmas. Our MEC, and we as FedEx ALPA have squandered away another opportunity to do meaningful and productive work for ourselves. Management has to be laughing their asses off.
Our MEC is having their joint council meeting on AUG 13th. If on that day they decide our negotiations are moving at an unacceptable pace, should they decide to take a strike vote? (They decide – we vote). That bit of voting takes … 30 days. That puts us into the middle of September. When the vote passes by 50% +1 (or 99%), should our MEC go to the NMB and ask for non-binding arbitration, and then to be released to self-help? The Company has to agree too, but why should they? They’re pleased with the progress moving forward at a snails pace. If the non-binding arbitration fails then we can ask the NMB to be released to self-help. After 40 months, does anybody believe we should be close to an agreement? After 40 months of negotiating, are we even close enough to ask the NMB for non-binding arbitration?
We’re going to have informational picketing in late September, but does anybody believe that’ll have an impact on negotiations or an impact on peak? Why weren’t we picketing in … June or July?
Folks – as I see it, the MEC hasn’t kept their eye on the ball. [We] have squandered a golden opportunity to avoid wasting our money another year. We took the second 3% pay raise to allow the Company to expedite an EU domicile, and because we weren’t ready with openers for a full Section 6 bargaining. Was there ever an established time-line with identified goals and options if negotiations started slipping?
If you’re not absolutely angered at the pace things are going, I’m not sure what it would take. Perhaps hearing rumors of concessions with our retirement will get your attention. If the Company wants to see 1,000 crew members bail on short notice, give us a T/A with retirement concessions (including but not limited to pay, health care and retirement age).
Very Respectfully,
Nakazawa
#87
I believe that the contract talks will accelerate when crew skeds starts melting down with not being able to fill flights on a nightly basis. Take a look at open time for the maddog,,incredible,,looks like before open time release instead of one week into the bid month. You guys will get us a contract,,,
#88
Well,
I sometimes wonder why a post is worded the way it's worded. If it's truly heartfelt, or a mgt stooge sowing dissension.
From previous posts, I think naka's rationale is heartfelt. But, it is still misguided. Picketing or not, we'll have a contract when mgt is ready for us to have a contract. If we absolutely wanted a contract right now, I'm confident that if we acquiesced to mgt's proposals-we'd have a contract. I don't think we're asking for the moon, so IMO the holdup is mgt's unreasonable proposals-some disrespect to PCs opinion intended.
When our contract expired 10 years ago, we did walk the picket line in June---but, still didn't have a contract by peak.
UPS's contract expired years ago, and they have been in mediation for quite some time.
Downside to RLA is that labor doesn't have nearly as much power, upside for the country is the freight keeps moving.
As for me, I'll just keep enjoying my satisfying FedEx life. Enjoying my vacation days. Wondering how the freight's going to keep moving as we meander towards peak, and adverse weather, with apparently enough people satisfied with their satisfying FedEx life that it's frustrating PC and he's putting pressure on the Union. Get the impression somehow that PC wants the Union to force people to fly voluntary overtime.
As for me, I know if BLG meanders up, I'm not going to be near any of the FAR flying limits. Kinda wonder how good the company's computer is at tracking the various limits under Flag ops. Do know they used to not be so good at the whole 8 in 24. Pretty sure if someone overflys, FedEx will self-report them for certificate action, just as they did in the past
I sometimes wonder why a post is worded the way it's worded. If it's truly heartfelt, or a mgt stooge sowing dissension.
From previous posts, I think naka's rationale is heartfelt. But, it is still misguided. Picketing or not, we'll have a contract when mgt is ready for us to have a contract. If we absolutely wanted a contract right now, I'm confident that if we acquiesced to mgt's proposals-we'd have a contract. I don't think we're asking for the moon, so IMO the holdup is mgt's unreasonable proposals-some disrespect to PCs opinion intended.
When our contract expired 10 years ago, we did walk the picket line in June---but, still didn't have a contract by peak.
UPS's contract expired years ago, and they have been in mediation for quite some time.
Downside to RLA is that labor doesn't have nearly as much power, upside for the country is the freight keeps moving.
As for me, I'll just keep enjoying my satisfying FedEx life. Enjoying my vacation days. Wondering how the freight's going to keep moving as we meander towards peak, and adverse weather, with apparently enough people satisfied with their satisfying FedEx life that it's frustrating PC and he's putting pressure on the Union. Get the impression somehow that PC wants the Union to force people to fly voluntary overtime.
As for me, I know if BLG meanders up, I'm not going to be near any of the FAR flying limits. Kinda wonder how good the company's computer is at tracking the various limits under Flag ops. Do know they used to not be so good at the whole 8 in 24. Pretty sure if someone overflys, FedEx will self-report them for certificate action, just as they did in the past
#89
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Folks – as I see it, the MEC hasn’t kept their eye on the ball. [We] have squandered a golden opportunity to avoid wasting our money another year. We took the second 3% pay raise to allow the Company to expedite an EU domicile, and because we weren’t ready with openers for a full Section 6 bargaining. Was there ever an established time-line with identified goals and options if negotiations started slipping?
#90
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Line pilots naturally want a no-risk resolution (like temporary manning issues). Especially those that fall into their lap. It's gonna take some risk and sacrifice to get the contract you want.
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