Latest company negotiations update
11-10-2014, 04:22 PM
#151
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Originally Posted by TonyC
NMB mediation began in October, 1994, and continued until October, 1995, when ALPA rejected the NMB's proffer of arbitration. A cooling off-period began on October 26, 1995, and parties were then released to self-help on November 25, 1995. ALPA was replaced by FPA which inherited the "self-help" status. The first CBA for FedEx Express pilots was achieved in 1999.
FedEx petitioned the NMB for mediation October 5, 2005. Prior to mediation, direct negotiations had been conducted for several months with the aid of an "outside facilitator." A Tentative Agreement was announced on August 27, 2006, and ratified on October 17, 2006.
1 year both times. The first resulted in release to self-help, the second resulted in our first negotiated contract.
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FedEx petitioned the NMB for mediation October 5, 2005. Prior to mediation, direct negotiations had been conducted for several months with the aid of an "outside facilitator." A Tentative Agreement was announced on August 27, 2006, and ratified on October 17, 2006.
1 year both times. The first resulted in release to self-help, the second resulted in our first negotiated contract.
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Looks like we're in it for another year then, perhaps longer. Though I'm not that close to finishing my career here, if I was on the property 25 years, I think I'd cut the cord wishing all who remain a prosperous future and then say goodbye.
Any improvements to the contract will probably be fine but are hardly worth giving up a year of my life and time with family. There might be some pilots who were waiting around for a signing bonus or just an indication of when a TA might be forthcoming. With the company filing for mediation, contrary to their hope that doing so will accelerate the process, I'm not optimistic for a speedier conclusion to negotiations especially with company's desire for PIBS, and to "industry benchmark" our already decent retirement. Anyway, I'd be willing to bet that we'll see retirements accelerate in the next few months because, for some, this NMB delay will simply not be worth the wait.
We'll see.
Fly Safely,
H&D
Last edited by HillandDale; 11-10-2014 at 04:57 PM.
11-10-2014, 06:45 PM
#153
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Originally Posted by HillandDale
Thanks, Tony.
Though I'm not that close to finishing my career here, if I was on the property 25 years, I think I'd cut the cord wishing all who remain a prosperous future and then say goodbye.
Anyway, I'd be willing to bet that we'll see retirements accelerate in the next few months because, for some, this NMB delay will simply not be worth the wait.
We'll see.
Fly Safely,
H&D
Though I'm not that close to finishing my career here, if I was on the property 25 years, I think I'd cut the cord wishing all who remain a prosperous future and then say goodbye.
Anyway, I'd be willing to bet that we'll see retirements accelerate in the next few months because, for some, this NMB delay will simply not be worth the wait.
We'll see.
Fly Safely,
H&D
11-11-2014, 09:00 AM
#154
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I keep hearing guys saying how much that have already been taken from them. The fact is, nothing was taken away "there was no court order to take anything away" you guys gave it up "your unions". The thing is the more you're will to give, the more they're expecting to receive. Contract negotiations especially with companies as profitable as FedEx, should about improving the sections of the contract which needs improvement, not about giving up S$$T. These companies have you give up a little from you today and 5yrs later have you negotiate something away to get it back. Now if a company is facing bankruptcy, the entire company starting with management should make sacrifices to keep the company profitable. No one should get bonuses during bankruptcy or while while others are getting concessions. Your company is very profitable, stocks as we speak is $171.84 per share. DONT GIVE UP not even a penny. You guys deserve improvements to every section of your contract. Stay strong, we will join you guys in masses if that time comes.
11-11-2014, 09:35 AM
#155
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Originally Posted by hourshore
without an a plan, i'd throw my app in with a pax carrier the next day. No movement, deteriorating qol, chief pilot witch hunts on sick and military leave. Sounds great.
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11-11-2014, 01:37 PM
#156
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Originally Posted by Gunter
That change was before management wanted our benefits package and work rules to look like the rest of the industry. Just look at what management is asking. They want a total rewrite of the CBA! They can't cherry pick which parts they want to change if they want to make a valid comparison. Pay per day, Days worked per month, total compensation, it will all come out. And not just for the top 20%, all of us.
You have to include profit sharing when you make the claim we have the "best". Since we've had it before it's not nearly as radical as their proposals.
How can they gloss over the fact that they're asking us to buy into a notional PBS project? The code for it has not been written and it would be the most ambitious PBS attempt to date. When someone finally works on it no one really knows how it will turn out.
You have to include profit sharing when you make the claim we have the "best". Since we've had it before it's not nearly as radical as their proposals.
How can they gloss over the fact that they're asking us to buy into a notional PBS project? The code for it has not been written and it would be the most ambitious PBS attempt to date. When someone finally works on it no one really knows how it will turn out.
It will just be like ObamaCare. We dont need to read it; just wait until it is a reality and then deal with it.
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11-14-2014, 06:50 AM
#157
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Can I put inflight Wi-Fi charges on my company credit card?
Man gets $1,200 bill for in-flight Wi-Fi - New York News
Man gets $1,200 bill for in-flight Wi-Fi - New York News
04-18-2015, 05:46 PM
#158
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Interesting comparison discussion going on about training and instructors. The others mostly don't do what they want our training department to turn into.
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04-21-2015, 01:28 PM
#160
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New hobby for VOL/DFT folks? NASA Sleep Study
Maybe they could call in SCK for 2 months while getting paid to sleep?
NASA study pays to lie in bed 70 days - New York News
At least they'd be well rested when they come back to work!*?
NASA study pays to lie in bed 70 days - New York News
At least they'd be well rested when they come back to work!*?
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