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Old 01-03-2015 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FrontSeat
What makes you think there will ever be a future CBA?

serious question.....
Really frontseat, you're hilarious. No CBA, ever. There will be a CBA eventually. I don't think the IPA really wants a contract yet, but in a couple of years it'll get done.
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Old 01-03-2015 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CVGCRJ

This brings me to the forbidden word: MGT PLT... what does it entail? Obviously hired outside of contract / seniority list but WHAT to say if asked if interested!???!??! And so on..........

Its the best deal possible !

Write your own schedule. Only fly short legs in the afternoon and come right back that evening.

Maybe update some memos, make a few phone calls to other pilots from the office during the days.

Captain in the first year.

Or maybe work in the sim doing checkrides of line guys.

Its a regular cornucopia of duties that could be assigned.



Its been well documented on this forum, search the word "NURP"
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Old 01-03-2015 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CVGCRJ

This brings me to the forbidden word: MGT PLT... what does it entail? Obviously hired outside of contract / seniority list but WHAT to say if asked if interested!???!??! And so on..........
DUDE SAY YES!!!

Forget about 2 condos!!! Try 4 or 5, maybe 10 condos all over the planet with the kind of money and benefits they are paying those boys and girls!!

Cha-Ching baby!!!!!!

And you get to wear 4 stripes on your cool brown leather jacket right away...

Looks like this -------------> llll ---- llll

Only down side is we all will think you're a no good scab and your ID will be marked as such and everyone will know...Kinda hard to jumpseat as a scab....as you well know.

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Old 01-03-2015 | 09:27 PM
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UPS should be your last choice if nothing better comes along. It's not the worst pilot job in the world, but choosing UPS over United, Delta or AA is a bad career decision if you ask me. You'll be junior here forever, and there is really nothing that I can identify in the future for this trucking-company-airline that makes me think it will get any better.

No growth at all, in fact, we are actually shrinking. NURPS taking captain slots out of seniority order. Full assault on the contract daily. Ugh, I can go on and on but why bother. Just pick a better career airline.. Wish I wouldve.
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Old 01-03-2015 | 11:52 PM
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Sounds to me a NURP no longer exists or should be called NUMP... ;-) It also sounds they're no cheaper for the company than a UGP (G for grunt)... :-p

Who has taken these positions? All over the board? And again without UGP's on the streets is/have the 'ill-will' reduced?

(Sorry touchy subject I'm sure but want to be educated...)
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Old 01-04-2015 | 01:10 AM
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Best advice to outsiders considering a job at UPS is to talk to guys already here. Jumpseat through our sort and pull up a chair. Don't make a decision based on anonymous disgruntled people's views on this forum. Lots of negativity!

UPS is a great job overall. The pay is eye opening- most F/Os I fly with make about 180-220K. I made over 300 in '14.

The men and women I fly with all enjoy their work generally and people that they fly with. If you choose a career here, you and your family will do well.

Peace out-
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Old 01-04-2015 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Anc74
Just pick a better career airline.. Wish I wouldve.
You still can.

2015 looks to be a banner year of hiring at each of the "big 3" and you can put this trauma behind you. There's talk of 2010 hires at Delta holding 717 NYC CA at Delta this year.

Or are you past "career V1"?
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Old 01-04-2015 | 07:07 AM
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Some of us should be more bitter than we are I guess. I'm trying to retire at 56, and the pay, benefits, retirement, and conflict bidding make it possible. You can make money at this place, YMMV

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Old 01-04-2015 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Anc74
UPS should be your last choice if nothing better comes along. It's not the worst pilot job in the world, but choosing UPS over United, Delta or AA is a bad career decision if you ask me. You'll be junior here forever, and there is really nothing that I can identify in the future for this trucking-company-airline that makes me think it will get any better.

No growth at all, in fact, we are actually shrinking. NURPS taking captain slots out of seniority order. Full assault on the contract daily. Ugh, I can go on and on but why bother. Just pick a better career airline.. Wish I wouldve.
Please talk to guys at AA and see how green their grass is.
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Old 01-04-2015 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE
Please talk to guys at AA and see how green their grass is.
Believe me I have. I also know a some UPS guys that are still considering their options to go back to AA.
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