FAA Says *** You to Cargo Pilots
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Flightcrew Member Duty and Rest Requirements
A Rule by the Federal Aviation Administration on 12/09/2014
Publication Date:Tuesday, December 09, 2014Agencies:Department of TransportationFederal Aviation AdministrationDates:Effective December 9, 2014.Effective Date:12/09/2014Entry Type:RuleAction: Notification of availability.Document Citation:79 FR 72970Page: 72970 -72975 (6 pages) CFR:14 CFR 11714 CFR 121Agency/Docket Number
ocket No. FAA-2009-1093RIN:2120-AJ58Document Number:2014-28868Shorter URL:https://federalregister.gov/a/2014-28868
Regulations.gov Docket Info
Docket NumberFAA-2009-1093Docket NameFlight Crewmember Duty and Rest RequirementsDocket RIN2120-AJ58Public Comments2425 commentsSupporting/Related MaterialsGRA, Incorporated - Summary of Crew Pairings AnalysisU.S. DOT/FAA - Wyatt et al AmJPhys 1999U.S. DOT/FAA - Wegmann-Klein 1985U.S. DOT/FAA - Rosekind et al Mnging Fatigue ops2U.S. DOT/FAA - Rosekind et al Mnging fatigue ops1U.S. DOT/FAA - Rosekind 2005U.S. DOT/FAA - NASA Study on Pilot CommutingU.S. DOT/FAA - NASA StudyU.S. DOT/FAA - NASA Rosekind et al 2001U.S. DOT/FAA - NASA Priciples Guidelines 1996See all 67 supporting documents
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Notification Of Availability.
Summary
The FAA is issuing a Final Supplemental Regulatory Impact Analysis (Final SRIA) of its final rule that amended its existing flight, duty and rest regulations applicable to certain certificate holders and their flightcrew members. A copy of the Final SRIA may be found in the docket for the rulemaking. The Final SRIA responds to comments that were made in response to the Initial Supplemental Regulatory Impact Analysis, and, where appropriate, incorporates new information provided by the commenters. In addition, the Final SRIA makes adjustments to the methodology used to estimate the costs and benefits of applying the final flight, duty, and rest rule to cargo-only operations, and includes additional sensitivity analyses. The results of the Final SRIA concludes that the base-case benefits of applying the flight, duty, and rest rule to cargo-only operations would be about $3 million, and the high-case benefits of doing so would be about $10 million. Conversely, the costs of applying the flight, duty, and rest rule to cargo-only operations would be about $452 million. Because the results of the analysis continue to indicate that the costs of mandating all-cargo operation compliance with the new flight, duty, and rest rule significantly outweigh the benefits, the FAA has determined that no revisions to the final rule are warranted.
Flightcrew Member Duty and Rest Requirements
A Rule by the Federal Aviation Administration on 12/09/2014
Publication Date:Tuesday, December 09, 2014Agencies:Department of TransportationFederal Aviation AdministrationDates:Effective December 9, 2014.Effective Date:12/09/2014Entry Type:RuleAction: Notification of availability.Document Citation:79 FR 72970Page: 72970 -72975 (6 pages) CFR:14 CFR 11714 CFR 121Agency/Docket Number
ocket No. FAA-2009-1093RIN:2120-AJ58Document Number:2014-28868Shorter URL:https://federalregister.gov/a/2014-28868 Regulations.gov Docket Info
Docket NumberFAA-2009-1093Docket NameFlight Crewmember Duty and Rest RequirementsDocket RIN2120-AJ58Public Comments2425 commentsSupporting/Related MaterialsGRA, Incorporated - Summary of Crew Pairings AnalysisU.S. DOT/FAA - Wyatt et al AmJPhys 1999U.S. DOT/FAA - Wegmann-Klein 1985U.S. DOT/FAA - Rosekind et al Mnging Fatigue ops2U.S. DOT/FAA - Rosekind et al Mnging fatigue ops1U.S. DOT/FAA - Rosekind 2005U.S. DOT/FAA - NASA Study on Pilot CommutingU.S. DOT/FAA - NASA StudyU.S. DOT/FAA - NASA Rosekind et al 2001U.S. DOT/FAA - NASA Priciples Guidelines 1996See all 67 supporting documents
Action
Notification Of Availability.
Summary
The FAA is issuing a Final Supplemental Regulatory Impact Analysis (Final SRIA) of its final rule that amended its existing flight, duty and rest regulations applicable to certain certificate holders and their flightcrew members. A copy of the Final SRIA may be found in the docket for the rulemaking. The Final SRIA responds to comments that were made in response to the Initial Supplemental Regulatory Impact Analysis, and, where appropriate, incorporates new information provided by the commenters. In addition, the Final SRIA makes adjustments to the methodology used to estimate the costs and benefits of applying the final flight, duty, and rest rule to cargo-only operations, and includes additional sensitivity analyses. The results of the Final SRIA concludes that the base-case benefits of applying the flight, duty, and rest rule to cargo-only operations would be about $3 million, and the high-case benefits of doing so would be about $10 million. Conversely, the costs of applying the flight, duty, and rest rule to cargo-only operations would be about $452 million. Because the results of the analysis continue to indicate that the costs of mandating all-cargo operation compliance with the new flight, duty, and rest rule significantly outweigh the benefits, the FAA has determined that no revisions to the final rule are warranted.
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Bad and good. Next time you cargo guys jumpseat on a pax 121 carrier, ask them about the impact to their schedules and QOL thanks to 117.
I'd say on average you will work 1-2 days more per month to make the same pay compared to the previous rules...or take the pay hit to keep the same amount of days off.
I'd say it hurt the pairings and most operators making the flying much less efficient.
Not saying I agree with the FAAs decision, just pointing out what has happened to schedules and those impacted by 117.
I'd say on average you will work 1-2 days more per month to make the same pay compared to the previous rules...or take the pay hit to keep the same amount of days off.
I'd say it hurt the pairings and most operators making the flying much less efficient.
Not saying I agree with the FAAs decision, just pointing out what has happened to schedules and those impacted by 117.
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Bad and good. Next time you cargo guys jumpseat on a pax 121 carrier, ask them about the impact to their schedules and QOL thanks to 117.
I'd say on average you will work 1-2 days more per month to make the same pay compared to the previous rules...or take the pay hit to keep the same amount of days off.
I'd say it hurt the pairings and most operators making the flying much less efficient.
Not saying I agree with the FAAs decision, just pointing out what has happened to schedules and those impacted by 117.
I'd say on average you will work 1-2 days more per month to make the same pay compared to the previous rules...or take the pay hit to keep the same amount of days off.
I'd say it hurt the pairings and most operators making the flying much less efficient.
Not saying I agree with the FAAs decision, just pointing out what has happened to schedules and those impacted by 117.
16 hours on duty?? 8:00hr layover commencing while waiting for the hotel van?? Never again.
Don't think 117 is bad stuff, it's not.
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Bad and good. Next time you cargo guys jumpseat on a pax 121 carrier, ask them about the impact to their schedules and QOL thanks to 117.
I'd say on average you will work 1-2 days more per month to make the same pay compared to the previous rules...or take the pay hit to keep the same amount of days off.
I'd say it hurt the pairings and most operators making the flying much less efficient.
Not saying I agree with the FAAs decision, just pointing out what has happened to schedules and those impacted by 117.
I'd say on average you will work 1-2 days more per month to make the same pay compared to the previous rules...or take the pay hit to keep the same amount of days off.
I'd say it hurt the pairings and most operators making the flying much less efficient.
Not saying I agree with the FAAs decision, just pointing out what has happened to schedules and those impacted by 117.
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