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Old 05-29-2015 | 09:08 AM
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My guess, someone has a problem with the messenger not the message!
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Old 05-29-2015 | 10:01 AM
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It's not math it is law. Read FAR 121.471.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 12:26 PM
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It's not math it is law. Read FAR 121.471.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 01:12 PM
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It's a Disputed Pairing. Nothing more need be said.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorknob

It's not math it is law. Read FAR 121.471.

You are correct. Under Domestic rules, I can finagle the scheduled flight time with a minimum of 10 consecutive hours of rest, if that pairing is flown as a standalone pairing, with no hubturn before or after.

Why would I want to be in a situation where it's even an issue?

Why don't you tell us why you'd like to fly this pairing as scheduled?


As of now, the FOs are showing 100% support, no takers.

Captains, on the other hand, have picked up the 06JUN and 27JUN pairings.






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Old 06-01-2015 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxKts

My guess, someone has a problem with the messenger not the message!

You're probably right. I had forgotten about his grand entrance to APC:
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Hey JetJock, I agree with MaxKts. Why don't you take your 3300+ posts, your A and B plans and enjoy your retirement. You are worse than an old retired AF O-6 that still goes to the BX so he will get saluted driving on base to park in the reserved parking up front. Please for the love of God, shut your cake hole and let us deal with FedEx. I promise you and everyone else this, when I retire I won't bother you either.






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Old 06-01-2015 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorknob
The layover could be as short as 10 hours and still be legal for 8 in 24 purposes. You seem to be up on the FARs as you post them frequently. I'm not saying it's a good trip I was just wondering why you were complaining about a long layover and implying a shorter layover would be better so you could just sleep once.
I never said I wanted to fly the trip and as noted above said it wasn't a good trip. I was simply pointing out to you that you were wrong by implying that a short layover was illegal. I also pointed out that once proven wrong you went quiet. Every pilot on this board has flown a harder trip that isn't disputed. I'll take a 20 hour layover anytime I can get one vs a 12 hour layover. Before you blow a gasket I don't fly DPs either.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorknob

I also pointed out that once proven wrong you went quiet.

Oh, sorry I didn't answer you fast enough. I've been a little busy with work and life, but I should have made you a higher priority. I did make yours the first response when I got back to my keyboard today.


Originally Posted by Doorknob

Every pilot on this board has flown a harder trip that isn't disputed. I'll take a 20 hour layover anytime I can get one vs a 12 hour layover.

I see, you just don't agree with the designation as a Disputed Pairing, so you wanted to stir up trouble. Gotcha. Thanks for playing.






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Old 06-01-2015 | 02:32 PM
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Isn't stirring up trouble what APC is all about? You are pretty thin skinned when someone doesn't agree with you.
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Old 06-01-2015 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Doorknob
The layover could be as short as 10 hours and still be legal for 8 in 24 purposes. You seem to be up on the FARs as you post them frequently. I'm not saying it's a good trip I was just wondering why you were complaining about a long layover and implying a shorter layover would be better so you could just sleep once.
For most humans...Sleeping once in a 24 hr period is the norm. So, if the company schedules you for a layover of 21-26 hrs, and you have slept during the first 9+/- hrs of that layover...When do you think your body would be telling you to sleep again?
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