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Strike Vote at UPS!

Old 09-13-2015, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Vito View Post
Whale surfer,
Good response to ClutchCargo's statement. I was wondering why CC thought we somehow got screwed in the last contract round. the decline of our schedule quality occurred because of many factors not necessarily related to our contract ( at least most thought at the time of signing, before the company came up with some creative workarounds)
He/she is an Anchorage based purple driver. I didn't take that post as a dig at us but rather his/her confusion over why we thought a strike vote "this early" was a good idea?
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Old 09-13-2015, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ClutchCargo View Post
Thanks for the clarification. I never thought you got screwed. Just that it took 13 months to get a T/A from the time you took the strike vote.


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Very valid point CC but don't forget that we've been negotiating 4 years now, 2 years longer than you because of the interim 2 year "COLA contract extension" agreements you had.

Call me crazy but I think that had we (technically 'they' as it was b4 my time here) not had that strike vote back then we'd have been finalizing our 2006 agreement about now...

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Old 09-14-2015, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ClutchCargo View Post
Thanks for the clarification. I never thought you got screwed. Just that it took 13 months to get a T/A from the time you took the strike vote.


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We did get screwed. It was by FDX ALPA opening with pay rates already lower than what UPS agrees to pay us in 2005/6. We (UPS and FDX pilots) were all screwed because the FDX MEC refused to work with the IPA.
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Old 09-14-2015, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray Kinsella View Post
We did get screwed. It was by FDX ALPA opening with pay rates already lower than what UPS agrees to pay us in 2005/6. We (UPS and FDX pilots) were all screwed because the FDX MEC refused to work with the IPA.
What has UPS agreed to pay you now so I'll know whether to vote yes or no, don't want to screw you again.
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Old 09-14-2015, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter View Post

UPS Pilots (Independent Pilots Association) Call Strike Vote


Sept 9 (Reuters) -
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The contract is under the Railway Labor Act, the U.S. labor law that governs railroads and airlines, ...

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"... there is no real threat of a strike. Such authorization votes are routine during negotiations in the airline industry, but they are legally irrelevant under the Railway Labor Act," UPS spokesman Mike Mangeot said in an emailed statement.

Even if the National Mediation Board grants the union a release from the talks, there are a "series of fail-safes, including presidential and congressional intervention, designed to prevent an interruption in operations," Mangeot said.

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(Reporting by Ankit Ajmera in Bengaluru; Editing by Kirti Pandey)


The above highlighted statement is instructive, and something we should always bear in mind. It reflects the core attitude of the employer in RLA negotiations. It's the uphill battle we all have to fight. To Management, strike is never a threat.

We have the heavier burden in this lop-sided process, but we have tools at our disposal and must use them wisely. Individuals are still free to make their own choices.






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Old 09-14-2015, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray Kinsella View Post
We did get screwed. It was by FDX ALPA opening with pay rates already lower than what UPS agrees to pay us in 2005/6. We (UPS and FDX pilots) were all screwed because the FDX MEC refused to work with the IPA.
Too bad you didn't strike over it. You already had the votes.
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG View Post
What has UPS agreed to pay you now so I'll know whether to vote yes or no, don't want to screw you again.
$325.00 an Hour.
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Old 09-14-2015, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Commando View Post
$325.00 an Hour.
Commando don't worry bout FDXLAG he proved in the past that he will do the job for 1/3 of that. 4a2b
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Old 09-14-2015, 05:36 PM
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Commando don't worry bout FDXLAG he proved in the past that he will do the job for 1/3 of that. 4a2b
Still bragging about your furloughs?
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Originally Posted by TonyC View Post
We have the heavier burden in this lop-sided process, but we have tools at our disposal and must use them wisely. Individuals are still free to make their own choices.
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And there lies the real Problem. It's not the NC or the MEC

Look at October vacations and open time.
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