Age 65 effect on FDX-UPS upgrades
02-25-2007, 06:14 AM
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"Besides our seat progression is driven by growth and expansion, not retirements".
Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
Age 65 will not be that big of a deal, especially at UPS/FDX. You'd have to assume that every single 60 year old will stay until 65. That won't happen. It'll probably be 50%. Besides our seat progression is driven by growth and expansion, not retirements. We are creating additional capt seats and age 65 has nothing to do with it. AGe 60 is the age for full retirement under our current contract. So anyone flying past 60 will be doing it at a discount because he could be making 60k a year in retirement anyway. Health problems become exponential as guys turn 60 so many will lose their medical. Those that can pass the physicals deserve to fly IMO.
"Besides our seat progression is driven by growth and expansion, not retirements."
"Besides our seat progression is driven by growth and expansion, not retirements."
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02-25-2007, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Coffee *****
"Besides our seat progression is driven by growth and expansion, not retirements."
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well, 19 widebodies (net, 27 deliveries scheduled, 8 DC10s pulled for conversion, per FDX Mx website) at 14 or 15 pilots per jet (crew figures from a CP email) does seem to trump 126 guys turning 60 in CY 07.
02-25-2007, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fdx727pilot
well, 19 widebodies (net, 27 deliveries scheduled, 8 DC10s pulled for conversion, per FDX Mx website) at 14 or 15 pilots per jet (crew figures from a CP email) does seem to trump 126 guys turning 60 in CY 07.
There comes a point in most pilot's careers, when it's less meaningful how many are coming in behind you. The important thing is how many leave in front of you.
Before you get too hostile...I, like everyone else, like the growth. But personally, I'd rather be # 700 out of 4800, than #826 out of 5050.
02-26-2007, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Coffee *****
"Besides our seat progression is driven by growth and expansion, not retirements."
"Besides our seat progression is driven by growth and expansion, not retirements."
"Besides our seat progression is driven by growth and expansion, not retirements."
YGTBSM ???
"Besides our seat progression is driven by growth and expansion, not retirements."
"Besides our seat progression is driven by growth and expansion, not retirements."
YGTBSM ???
02-26-2007, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
Depends on your seniority...
There comes a point in most pilot's careers, when it's less meaningful how many are coming in behind you. The important thing is how many leave in front of you.
Before you get too hostile...I, like everyone else, like the growth. But personally, I'd rather be # 700 out of 4800, than #826 out of 5050.
There comes a point in most pilot's careers, when it's less meaningful how many are coming in behind you. The important thing is how many leave in front of you.
Before you get too hostile...I, like everyone else, like the growth. But personally, I'd rather be # 700 out of 4800, than #826 out of 5050.
02-26-2007, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by fdx727pilot
. And it sure seems like most of those on this forum are newbies to guys with less than 10 years. Not so many old heads. I count myself as both, due to prior airlines, but that's just me.
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02-26-2007, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso
A fair number of the newbies can say the same thing these days. The nice thing about retirements vs. growth is that retirements can help in both good and bad times. They help with progression(albeit slow) and they also help in downturns as they can mitigate the number of people furloughed and how long they are furloughed for.
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