Amazon - Most Definitely Starting An Airline
#24
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Long time lurker first time poster. Serious question as I am not too familiar with the cargo side of things. Hypothetically, if one were in the hiring pool at either UPS or FedEx, and hypothetically if said person were offered a job with one of the two, should that person consider turning it down and focusing their efforts instead on a career with ATSG? Will ATSG/Amazon be bigger than UPS and Fed Ex?
This reminds me of someone in the 1970's who may have accepted employment with TWA or Pan Am while not paying much attention to that little 737 operator known as Southwest Airlines. If I understand the article correctly, it sounds as if Amazon will very soon be the big logistics company on the block and could very well put UPS and/or Fed Ex out of business. Stranger things have happened.
This reminds me of someone in the 1970's who may have accepted employment with TWA or Pan Am while not paying much attention to that little 737 operator known as Southwest Airlines. If I understand the article correctly, it sounds as if Amazon will very soon be the big logistics company on the block and could very well put UPS and/or Fed Ex out of business. Stranger things have happened.
#25
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Joined APC: Oct 2015
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Long time lurker first time poster. Serious question as I am not too familiar with the cargo side of things. Hypothetically, if one were in the hiring pool at either UPS or FedEx, and hypothetically if said person were offered a job with one of the two, should that person consider turning it down and focusing their efforts instead on a career with ATSG? Will ATSG/Amazon be bigger than UPS and Fed Ex?
This reminds me of someone in the 1970's who may have accepted employment with TWA or Pan Am while not paying much attention to that little 737 operator known as Southwest Airlines. If I understand the article correctly, it sounds as if Amazon will very soon be the big logistics company on the block and could very well put UPS and/or Fed Ex out of business. Stranger things have happened.
This reminds me of someone in the 1970's who may have accepted employment with TWA or Pan Am while not paying much attention to that little 737 operator known as Southwest Airlines. If I understand the article correctly, it sounds as if Amazon will very soon be the big logistics company on the block and could very well put UPS and/or Fed Ex out of business. Stranger things have happened.
Don't get all crazy because you can get groceries delivered in 2 hours now if you have prime.
you're forgetting all the business outside of Amazon that takes place in the cargo industry. Amazon is one income stream.
#28
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I re-read some of the articles and saw something I did not notice earlier. It sounds as if Amazon may be entering this venture to supplement its existing avenues of transport. In other words, FedEx and UPS will still transport Amazon volume and ATSG will provide additional lift as opposed to being Amazon's exclusive carrier.
What will be interesting to see is if UPS and FedEx get involved in the online retailer business and attempt to compete with Amazon in that regards. It seems like it would be easier for them to purchase some e-tail business(es) and compete against Amazon than for Amazon to purchase an airline and compete with other shipping companies.
#30
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Good point. I wonder if this could turn out to be a bad idea at some point. Logistics are not cheap and costs rarely stay fixed. It will be interesting to see if Amazon will charge fuel surcharges when (not if) fuel prices increase. FedEx and UPS have been doing this for 140+ years combined and know how the game is played.
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