Originally Posted by aviatorhi

At Omni going to and from your gateway is on your work days and it is not taxed. Travel has improved significantly with the new CBA and there is ample opportunity to make extra money by waiving business class if you can stand it. Guys are consistently working 16 days under the new contract. Can go up to 22 in a worst case (lightning struck you twice) scenario but that includes all your traveling.

I'm a lifer at Omni. But if you only plan on being at an ACMI until a major calls then come to Omni or Kalitta. Atlas may get a much better contract down the road but who knows when.

If this is the lifestyle you want then look at the bases, benefits, etc. Omni may not be the best but you'll still be better off than 95% of the country.

Originally Posted by TeamSasquatch

Waving business class sounds appealing. What kind of extra money could you bring in from riding economy on a typical flight?

Thanks

Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER

First, Atlas pilots are contractually obligated to work 17 days a month. Not 16.

Also it is not at all unusual for junior pilots to be extended by up to three days.

If you get the 747, the junior base is ANC which usually requires a travel day on each end to get to and from Alaska.

If you get the 767, that'll be the CVG base, so depending on where you live that could add to your days away from home as well.

Some lines are built as one month schedules and some built as two month. Most of the one month schedules have one 17 day sequence. The two month schedules will have two or three sequences. Sometimes the 60 day schedules go junior so you would have extra travel days for the extra sequence.

On the 747, don't plan on that schedule holding at all. On the 767 if you're doing the DHL flying, it is probably more consistent with whatever you bid. In over 7 years here on the 747, I have NEVER had a monthly schedule end up being what I bid. Sometimes it changes a little. Sometimes I'm on a different continent all together.

With seniority and creative bidding you can sometimes get an extra day or two at home but don't count on it.

Reserve R1 is a 5 or 10 hour call out from home. R2 is a 90 minute call out from your base hotel (or home if you live in base). R3 is a 90 call out from the airport.

Seriously, I'd look at Omni or Kalitta, or Allegiant as a better place to work right now than Atlas. Go re-read the other threads. Aside from a couple of kool-aid drinkers and union haters, the vast majority of Atlas pilots will tell you the same thing. It's not a good place to work right now at all.

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Originally Posted by ContactApproach

Stay Way from Atlas. Been at Allegiant for almost 3 years now. Thank god I missed that bullet.

Originally Posted by aviatorhi

International trips that go outside north america.

Up to 3 hours - $300. 3-8 hours $500. 8-16 hours $750. Over 16 is a cool $1000.

I have no problem sitting in economy to the middle east and buying a new "whatever" as a result. Other like the business class.

Originally Posted by JackStraw

That’s true, you did dodge a bullet. But I don’t think you really had a choice.

Originally Posted by aviatorhi

Same thing happened to the Omni posts when we were getting close to a TA.

Originally Posted by DC8DRIVER

Yup. That's pretty much what he's turned into ...

Originally Posted by 4runner

I just figured that out. Like I said, management douche or wannabe management douche.

Originally Posted by Davetastic

You should have quit while you didn't look like such a moron. Now you look like even more of a moron with this post. You are being critical of me for bringing to your attention the realities of a PRIA question and also because I asked why you got so heated when asked about a PRIA question. Even others have commented that you should have just let it go but to call me "management" is just misguided and incorrect. I've been critical of the union it's true but take a look at the multitude of other Atlas posts on this forum....the growing frustration with the union among the ranks of active Atlas pilots...which doesn't include you!...is starting to boil over. But, I have also been critical of the company. So, before you go personally bashing me for the purpose of just personally bashing me because others are doing so, do your homework. You will not get support from anybody...including "8" just because you jumped on the bandwagon. At the very least you should have your own point.